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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Deven Bowers <deven.desai@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
	snitzer@redhat.com, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	tyhicks@linux.microsoft.com, agk@redhat.com, paul@paul-moore.com,
	corbet@lwn.net, nramas@linux.microsoft.com, serge@hallyn.com,
	pasha.tatashin@soleen.com, jannh@google.com,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	axboe@kernel.dk, mdsakib@microsoft.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, eparis@redhat.com,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-audit@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	jaskarankhurana@linux.microsoft.com
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [RFC PATCH v5 00/11] Integrity Policy Enforcement LSM (IPE)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:40:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <268edec96cbe7d2626c9158b806e8865b6b1b8ed.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a764c86a824a4b931dd7f130ce7afce7df140e4.camel@linux.ibm.com>

On Fri, 2020-08-07 at 13:31 -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Sat, 2020-08-08 at 02:41 +1000, James Morris wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Aug 2020, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 09:51 +1000, James Morris wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > If block layer integrity was enough, there wouldn't have been a need
> > > > > for fs-verity.   Even fs-verity is limited to read only filesystems,
> > > > > which makes validating file integrity so much easier.  From the
> > > > > beginning, we've said that fs-verity signatures should be included in
> > > > > the measurement list.  (I thought someone signed on to add that support
> > > > > to IMA, but have not yet seen anything.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Going forward I see a lot of what we've accomplished being incorporated
> > > > > into the filesystems.  When IMA will be limited to defining a system
> > > > > wide policy, I'll have completed my job.
> > > > 
> > > > What are your thoughts on IPE being a standalone LSM? Would you prefer to 
> > > > see its functionality integrated into IMA?
> > > 
> > > Improving the integrity subsystem would be preferred.
> > > 
> > 
> > Are you planning to attend Plumbers? Perhaps we could propose a BoF 
> > session on this topic.
> 
> That sounds like a good idea.

Other than it is already sold out.

Mimi


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Cc: snitzer@redhat.com,
	Deven Bowers <deven.desai@linux.microsoft.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, tyhicks@linux.microsoft.com,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	agk@redhat.com, Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
	corbet@lwn.net, nramas@linux.microsoft.com, serge@hallyn.com,
	pasha.tatashin@soleen.com, jannh@google.com,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	axboe@kernel.dk, mdsakib@microsoft.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-audit@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	jaskarankhurana@linux.microsoft.com
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [RFC PATCH v5 00/11] Integrity Policy Enforcement LSM (IPE)
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:40:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <268edec96cbe7d2626c9158b806e8865b6b1b8ed.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a764c86a824a4b931dd7f130ce7afce7df140e4.camel@linux.ibm.com>

On Fri, 2020-08-07 at 13:31 -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Sat, 2020-08-08 at 02:41 +1000, James Morris wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Aug 2020, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 09:51 +1000, James Morris wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > If block layer integrity was enough, there wouldn't have been a need
> > > > > for fs-verity.   Even fs-verity is limited to read only filesystems,
> > > > > which makes validating file integrity so much easier.  From the
> > > > > beginning, we've said that fs-verity signatures should be included in
> > > > > the measurement list.  (I thought someone signed on to add that support
> > > > > to IMA, but have not yet seen anything.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Going forward I see a lot of what we've accomplished being incorporated
> > > > > into the filesystems.  When IMA will be limited to defining a system
> > > > > wide policy, I'll have completed my job.
> > > > 
> > > > What are your thoughts on IPE being a standalone LSM? Would you prefer to 
> > > > see its functionality integrated into IMA?
> > > 
> > > Improving the integrity subsystem would be preferred.
> > > 
> > 
> > Are you planning to attend Plumbers? Perhaps we could propose a BoF 
> > session on this topic.
> 
> That sounds like a good idea.

Other than it is already sold out.

Mimi

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Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-28 21:36 [RFC PATCH v5 00/11] Integrity Policy Enforcement LSM (IPE) Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 01/11] scripts: add ipe tooling to generate boot policy Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 02/11] security: add ipe lsm evaluation loop and audit system Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 03/11] security: add ipe lsm policy parser and policy loading Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 04/11] ipe: add property for trust of boot volume Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 05/11] fs: add security blob and hooks for block_device Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 22:22   ` Casey Schaufler
2020-07-28 22:22     ` Casey Schaufler
2020-07-28 22:40     ` Al Viro
2020-07-28 22:40       ` Al Viro
2020-07-28 23:55       ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 23:55         ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 06/11] dm-verity: move signature check after tree validation Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:50   ` Eric Biggers
2020-07-28 21:50     ` Eric Biggers
2020-07-28 23:55     ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 23:55       ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 07/11] dm-verity: add bdev_setsecurity hook for dm-verity signature Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 08/11] ipe: add property for signed dmverity volumes Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 09/11] dm-verity: add bdev_setsecurity hook for root-hash Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 10/11] documentation: add ipe documentation Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 10/12] ipe: add property for dmverity roothash Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 11/11] cleanup: uapi/linux/audit.h Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 11/12] documentation: add ipe documentation Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH v5 12/12] cleanup: uapi/linux/audit.h Deven Bowers
2020-07-28 21:36   ` Deven Bowers
2020-08-02 11:55 ` [RFC PATCH v5 00/11] Integrity Policy Enforcement LSM (IPE) Pavel Machek
2020-08-02 11:55   ` Pavel Machek
2020-08-02 14:03   ` Sasha Levin
2020-08-02 14:03     ` Sasha Levin
2020-08-02 14:31     ` Pavel Machek
2020-08-02 14:31       ` Pavel Machek
2020-08-02 16:43       ` [dm-devel] " James Bottomley
2020-08-02 16:43         ` James Bottomley
2020-08-04 16:07         ` Deven Bowers
2020-08-04 16:07           ` Deven Bowers
2020-08-04 16:07           ` [dm-devel] " Deven Bowers
2020-08-05 15:01           ` James Bottomley
2020-08-05 15:01             ` James Bottomley
2020-08-05 15:01             ` [dm-devel] " James Bottomley
2020-08-05 16:59             ` James Morris
2020-08-05 16:59               ` James Morris
2020-08-05 18:15               ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-05 18:15                 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-05 23:51                 ` James Morris
2020-08-05 23:51                   ` James Morris
2020-08-06 14:33                   ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-06 14:33                     ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-06 14:33                     ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-07 16:41                     ` James Morris
2020-08-07 16:41                       ` James Morris
2020-08-07 17:31                       ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-07 17:31                         ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-07 18:40                         ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2020-08-07 18:40                           ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-10 20:29                           ` James Morris
2020-08-10 20:29                             ` James Morris
2020-08-08 17:47                 ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-08 17:47                   ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-09 17:16                   ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-09 17:16                     ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-10 15:35                     ` James Bottomley
2020-08-10 15:35                       ` James Bottomley
2020-08-10 16:35                       ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-10 16:35                         ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-10 17:13                         ` James Bottomley
2020-08-10 17:13                           ` James Bottomley
2020-08-10 17:57                           ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-10 17:57                             ` Mimi Zohar
2020-08-10 23:36                       ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-10 23:36                         ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-10 23:36                         ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-11  5:43                         ` James Bottomley
2020-08-11  5:43                           ` James Bottomley
2020-08-11  5:43                           ` James Bottomley
2020-08-11 14:48                           ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-11 14:48                             ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-11 14:48                             ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-11 15:32                             ` James Bottomley
2020-08-11 15:32                               ` James Bottomley
2020-08-11 15:32                               ` James Bottomley
2020-08-11 19:30                               ` Pavel Machek
2020-08-11 19:30                                 ` Pavel Machek
2020-08-11 19:30                                 ` Pavel Machek
2020-08-12 14:45                               ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-12 14:45                                 ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-12 14:45                                 ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-11 15:53                             ` James Bottomley
2020-08-11 15:53                               ` James Bottomley
2020-08-11 15:53                               ` James Bottomley
2020-08-12 14:15                               ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-12 14:15                                 ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-12 14:15                                 ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-12 15:51                                 ` James Bottomley
2020-08-12 15:51                                   ` James Bottomley
2020-08-12 15:51                                   ` James Bottomley
2020-08-13 14:42                                   ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-13 14:42                                     ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-13 14:42                                     ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-13 15:10                                     ` James Bottomley
2020-08-13 15:10                                       ` James Bottomley
2020-08-13 15:10                                       ` James Bottomley
2020-08-14 14:21                                       ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-14 14:21                                         ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-14 14:21                                         ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-11 18:28                             ` James Bottomley
2020-08-11 18:28                               ` James Bottomley
2020-08-11 18:28                               ` James Bottomley
2020-08-12 13:56                               ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-12 13:56                                 ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-12 13:56                                 ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-12 15:42                                 ` James Bottomley
2020-08-12 15:42                                   ` James Bottomley
2020-08-12 15:42                                   ` James Bottomley
2020-08-13 14:21                                   ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-13 14:21                                     ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-13 14:21                                     ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-13 14:42                                     ` James Bottomley
2020-08-13 14:42                                       ` James Bottomley
2020-08-13 14:42                                       ` James Bottomley
2020-08-13 14:56                                       ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-13 14:56                                         ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-13 14:56                                         ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-11 21:03                   ` James Morris
2020-08-11 21:03                     ` James Morris
2020-08-11 21:03                     ` James Morris
2020-08-12 14:18                     ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-12 14:18                       ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-12 14:18                       ` Chuck Lever
2020-08-12 17:07                       ` Deven Bowers
2020-08-12 17:07                         ` Deven Bowers

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