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From: Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Ben Peart <benpeart@microsoft.com>,
	David.Turner@twosigma.com, avarab@gmail.com,
	christian.couder@gmail.com, git@vger.kernel.org,
	johannes.schindelin@gmx.de, pclouds@gmail.com, peff@peff.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 03/12] update-index: add a new --force-write-index option
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 22:06:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28891f82-32e5-dc46-961c-a44e86e84989@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq8th8n7rf.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>



On 9/20/2017 9:46 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Ben Peart <peartben@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Lets see how my ascii art skills do at describing this:
> 
> Your ascii art is fine.  If you said upfront that the capital
> letters signify points in time, lower letters are file-touching
> events, and time flows from left to right, it would have been
> perfect ;-)
> 

Rats, so close and yet... ;-)

>> There is no real concern about accumulating too many changes as 1) the
>> processing cost for additional modified files is fairly trivial and 2)
>> the index ends up getting written out pretty frequently anyway as
>> files are added/removed/staged/etc which updates the
>> fsmonitor_last_update time.
> 
> I still see some impedance mismatch here.  The optimization
> described is valid but the code to do the optimization would avoid
> writing the index file out when the in-core index is dirty only
> because the status reported by fsmonitor changed--if there were
> other changes (e.g. the code added a new index entry), even with the
> optimization, you would still want to write the index out, right?
> 

Yes, that is exactly how it works.  FSMONITOR_CHANGED is only set when 
the fsmonitor index extension is added or removed but all the other 
logic to flag the index dirty (CE_ENTRY_CHANGED/REMOVED/ADDED, 
UNTRACKED_CHANGED, etc) still exists and will still trigger the index to 
be written out as it always has.  It's not to say some of these other 
changes could not do the same optimization (I haven't looked) if 
recomputing is cheaper than writing out the index.

> With or without the need for forced flush to help debugging, would
> that suggest that you need two bits now, instead of just a single
> 'active-cache-changed' bit?
> 
> By keeping track of that new bit that tells us if we have
> fsmonitor-only changes that we _could_ flush, this patch can further
> reduce the need for forced flushing (i.e. if we know we didn't get
> fsmonitor induced dirtyness, force_write can still be no-op), no?
> 

Yes, I suppose we _could_ add a 2nd bit (and then add the logic to set 
that bit every time a fsmonitor change was made) but I don't see that it 
really buys us anything useful.  The force write flag in update-index is 
off by default and the only scenario we have that someone would set it 
is for test cases where the perf of writing out the index when it is not 
needed just doesn't matter.

>>
>> The challenge came when it was time to test that the changes to the
>> index were correct.  Since they are lazily written by default, I
>> needed a way to force the write so that I could verify the index on
>> disk was correct.  Hence, this patch.
>>
>>
>>>>    		OPT_END()
>>>>    	};
>>>>    @@ -1147,7 +1150,7 @@ int cmd_update_index(int argc, const char
>>>> **argv, const char *prefix)
>>>>    		die("BUG: bad untracked_cache value: %d", untracked_cache);
>>>>    	}
>>>>    -	if (active_cache_changed) {
>>>> +	if (active_cache_changed || force_write) {
>>>>    		if (newfd < 0) {
>>>>    			if (refresh_args.flags & REFRESH_QUIET)
>>>>    				exit(128);

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-21  2:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-10 13:40 [PATCH v5 0/7] Fast git status via a file system watcher Ben Peart
2017-06-10 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] bswap: add 64 bit endianness helper get_be64 Ben Peart
2017-06-10 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] dir: make lookup_untracked() available outside of dir.c Ben Peart
2017-06-10 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] fsmonitor: teach git to optionally utilize a file system monitor to speed up detecting new or changed files Ben Peart
2017-06-27 15:43   ` Christian Couder
2017-07-03 21:25     ` Ben Peart
2017-06-10 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] fsmonitor: add test cases for fsmonitor extension Ben Peart
2017-06-27 16:20   ` Christian Couder
2017-07-07 18:50     ` Ben Peart
2017-06-10 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] fsmonitor: add documentation for the " Ben Peart
2017-06-10 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] fsmonitor: add a sample query-fsmonitor hook script for Watchman Ben Peart
2017-06-10 13:40 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] fsmonitor: add a performance test Ben Peart
2017-06-10 14:04   ` Ben Peart
2017-06-12 22:04   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-06-14 14:12     ` Ben Peart
2017-06-14 18:36       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-07 18:14         ` Ben Peart
2017-07-07 18:35           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-07 19:07             ` Ben Peart
2017-07-07 19:33             ` David Turner
2017-07-08  7:19             ` Christian Couder
2017-06-28  5:11 ` [PATCH v5 0/7] Fast git status via a file system watcher Christian Couder
2017-07-10 13:36   ` Ben Peart
2017-07-10 14:40     ` Ben Peart
2017-09-15 19:20 ` [PATCH v6 00/12] " Ben Peart
2017-09-15 19:20   ` [PATCH v6 01/12] bswap: add 64 bit endianness helper get_be64 Ben Peart
2017-09-15 19:20   ` [PATCH v6 02/12] preload-index: add override to enable testing preload-index Ben Peart
2017-09-15 19:20   ` [PATCH v6 03/12] update-index: add a new --force-write-index option Ben Peart
2017-09-15 19:20   ` [PATCH v6 04/12] fsmonitor: teach git to optionally utilize a file system monitor to speed up detecting new or changed files Ben Peart
2017-09-15 21:35     ` David Turner
2017-09-18 13:07       ` Ben Peart
2017-09-18 13:32         ` David Turner
2017-09-18 13:49           ` Ben Peart
2017-09-15 19:20   ` [PATCH v6 05/12] fsmonitor: add documentation for the fsmonitor extension Ben Peart
2017-09-15 19:43     ` David Turner
2017-09-18 13:27       ` Ben Peart
2017-09-17  8:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-18 13:29       ` Ben Peart
2017-09-15 19:20   ` [PATCH v6 06/12] ls-files: Add support in ls-files to display the fsmonitor valid bit Ben Peart
2017-09-15 20:34     ` David Turner
2017-09-15 19:20   ` [PATCH v6 07/12] update-index: add fsmonitor support to update-index Ben Peart
2017-09-15 19:20   ` [PATCH v6 08/12] fsmonitor: add a test tool to dump the index extension Ben Peart
2017-09-17  8:02     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-18 13:38       ` Ben Peart
2017-09-18 15:43         ` Torsten Bögershausen
2017-09-18 16:28           ` Ben Peart
2017-09-19 14:16             ` Torsten Bögershausen
2017-09-19 15:36               ` Ben Peart
2017-09-15 19:20   ` [PATCH v6 09/12] split-index: disable the fsmonitor extension when running the split index test Ben Peart
2017-09-19 20:43     ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-20 17:11       ` Ben Peart
2017-09-20 17:46         ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-21  0:05           ` Ben Peart
2017-09-15 19:20   ` [PATCH v6 10/12] fsmonitor: add test cases for fsmonitor extension Ben Peart
2017-09-15 22:00     ` David Turner
2017-09-19 19:32       ` David Turner
2017-09-19 20:30         ` Ben Peart
2017-09-16 15:27     ` Torsten Bögershausen
2017-09-17  5:43       ` [PATCH v1 1/1] test-lint: echo -e (or -E) is not portable tboegi
2017-09-19 20:37         ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-20 13:49           ` Torsten Bögershausen
2017-09-22  1:04             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-18 14:06       ` [PATCH v6 10/12] fsmonitor: add test cases for fsmonitor extension Ben Peart
2017-09-17  4:47     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-18 15:25       ` Ben Peart
2017-09-19 20:34         ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-09-15 19:20   ` [PATCH v6 11/12] fsmonitor: add a sample integration script for Watchman Ben Peart
2017-09-15 19:20   ` [PATCH v6 12/12] fsmonitor: add a performance test Ben Peart
2017-09-15 21:56     ` David Turner
2017-09-18 14:24     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-18 18:19       ` Ben Peart
2017-09-19 15:28         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-09-19 19:27   ` [PATCH v7 00/12] Fast git status via a file system watcher Ben Peart
2017-09-19 19:27     ` [PATCH v7 01/12] bswap: add 64 bit endianness helper get_be64 Ben Peart
2017-09-19 19:27     ` [PATCH v7 02/12] preload-index: add override to enable testing preload-index Ben Peart
2017-09-20 22:06       ` Stefan Beller
2017-09-21  0:02         ` Ben Peart
2017-09-21  0:44           ` Stefan Beller
2017-09-19 19:27     ` [PATCH v7 03/12] update-index: add a new --force-write-index option Ben Peart
2017-09-20  5:47       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-20 14:58         ` Ben Peart
2017-09-21  1:46           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-21  2:06             ` Ben Peart [this message]
2017-09-21  2:18               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-21  2:32                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-19 19:27     ` [PATCH v7 04/12] fsmonitor: teach git to optionally utilize a file system monitor to speed up detecting new or changed files Ben Peart
2017-09-20  2:28       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-20 16:19         ` Ben Peart
2017-09-21  2:00           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-21  2:24             ` Ben Peart
2017-09-21 14:35               ` Ben Peart
2017-09-22  1:02                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-20  6:23       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-20 16:29         ` Ben Peart
2017-09-19 19:27     ` [PATCH v7 05/12] fsmonitor: add documentation for the fsmonitor extension Ben Peart
2017-09-20 10:00       ` Martin Ågren
2017-09-20 17:02         ` Ben Peart
2017-09-20 17:11           ` Martin Ågren
2017-09-19 19:27     ` [PATCH v7 06/12] ls-files: Add support in ls-files to display the fsmonitor valid bit Ben Peart
2017-09-19 19:46       ` David Turner
2017-09-19 20:44         ` Ben Peart
2017-09-19 21:27           ` David Turner
2017-09-19 22:44             ` Ben Peart
2017-09-19 19:27     ` [PATCH v7 07/12] update-index: add fsmonitor support to update-index Ben Peart
2017-09-19 19:27     ` [PATCH v7 08/12] fsmonitor: add a test tool to dump the index extension Ben Peart
2017-09-19 19:27     ` [PATCH v7 09/12] split-index: disable the fsmonitor extension when running the split index test Ben Peart
2017-09-19 19:27     ` [PATCH v7 10/12] fsmonitor: add test cases for fsmonitor extension Ben Peart
2017-09-19 19:27     ` [PATCH v7 11/12] fsmonitor: add a sample integration script for Watchman Ben Peart
2017-09-19 19:27     ` [PATCH v7 12/12] fsmonitor: add a performance test Ben Peart
2017-09-22 16:35     ` [PATCH v8 00/12] Fast git status via a file system watcher Ben Peart
2017-09-22 16:35       ` [PATCH v8 01/12] bswap: add 64 bit endianness helper get_be64 Ben Peart
2017-09-22 23:37         ` Martin Ågren
2017-09-23 23:31           ` Ben Peart
2017-09-24  3:51             ` Jeff King
2017-09-24  3:52             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-22 16:35       ` [PATCH v8 02/12] preload-index: add override to enable testing preload-index Ben Peart
2017-09-22 16:35       ` [PATCH v8 03/12] update-index: add a new --force-write-index option Ben Peart
2017-09-22 16:35       ` [PATCH v8 04/12] fsmonitor: teach git to optionally utilize a file system monitor to speed up detecting new or changed files Ben Peart
2017-09-22 16:35       ` [PATCH v8 05/12] fsmonitor: add documentation for the fsmonitor extension Ben Peart
2017-09-22 16:35       ` [PATCH v8 06/12] ls-files: Add support in ls-files to display the fsmonitor valid bit Ben Peart
2017-09-22 16:35       ` [PATCH v8 07/12] update-index: add fsmonitor support to update-index Ben Peart
2017-09-22 16:35       ` [PATCH v8 08/12] fsmonitor: add a test tool to dump the index extension Ben Peart
2017-09-22 23:37         ` Martin Ågren
2017-09-23 23:33           ` Ben Peart
2017-09-24  3:51             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-09-22 16:35       ` [PATCH v8 09/12] split-index: disable the fsmonitor extension when running the split index test Ben Peart
2017-09-22 16:35       ` [PATCH v8 10/12] fsmonitor: add test cases for fsmonitor extension Ben Peart
2017-09-22 16:35       ` [PATCH v8 11/12] fsmonitor: add a sample integration script for Watchman Ben Peart
2017-09-22 16:35       ` [PATCH v8 12/12] fsmonitor: add a performance test Ben Peart
2017-09-29  2:20       ` [PATCH v8 00/12] Fast git status via a file system watcher Junio C Hamano
2017-09-29 12:07         ` Ben Peart
2017-10-01  8:24           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-03 19:48             ` Ben Peart
2017-10-04  2:09               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-04  6:38                 ` Alex Vandiver
2017-10-04 12:48                   ` Ben Peart
2017-10-04 12:27                 ` Ben Peart

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