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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	Yoder Stuart-B08248 <stuart.yoder@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/17] Document the linux,network-index property.
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:11:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <28ff7492856c7220f060cd113329e62f@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070322002911.GD2295@localhost.localdomain>

>>> Segher, what is the the 'other alias' mechanism you are referring
>>> to that should be dropped?  Is it this proposed linux,network-index
>>> property?  or something else?
>>
>> Just the
>>
>> 	pic0: pic@700 {
>> 		...
>> 	}
>>
>> labeling thing -- it becomes redundant when the flat tree
>> stuff would support OF-style aliases, so it can be phased
>> out then.
>
> dtc labels are *not* an alias mechanism: they're essentially a
> compile-time rather than run-time concept

Sure.  For flat device trees, you can evaluate the OF-style
aliases at compile time, too.

> and they can reference
> properties as well as nodes

I didn't know this though.  If that's useful (I don't see how
right now), you want to keep labels I suppose.

> Putting the aliases in a separate node is far less usable for the
> things labels are useful for than putting the label directly on the
> node.  Replacing labels with the OF alias mechanism is not sensible.

Well I dunno, it's used quite often in "real" OF to create
cross-references between the nodes, and I always found it
very handy.  There's no semantic difference (except with
aliases you can refer to nodes below the alias), and no big
syntactic difference either (well with labels you spread the
"short names" all over the tree, no relation between them
is immediately obvious).

> That said, auto-generating OF-style aliases from labels for the
> benefit of run-time users might be worthwhile.

Or the other way around.  Or both!

> And using /aliases
> would work about as well as the "linux,network-index" trick.

Better, like I explained already.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-22 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-16 17:26 [PATCH 00/17] bootwrapper/cuImage patches Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 01/17] bootwrapper: Make ft_create_node() pay attention to the parent parameter Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:23   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 02/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_ops methods Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:24   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 03/17] bootwrapper: Add xlate_reg(), and use it to find serial registers Scott Wood
2007-03-20  3:50   ` David Gibson
2007-03-20 16:34     ` Scott Wood
2007-03-21  3:12       ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:49     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 16:01       ` Scott Wood
2007-03-21 19:11         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 04/17] bootwrapper: Make compression of the kernel image optional Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:25   ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 15:03   ` Patch: " Milton Miller
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 05/17] bootwrapper: misc device tree fixes Scott Wood
2007-03-21  1:51   ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 16:22     ` Scott Wood
2007-03-23  3:26       ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:22   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 06/17] Document the linux,network-index property Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:26   ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:30   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 14:48     ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-03-21 18:57       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-22  0:29         ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 11:11           ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-03-23  3:19             ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 11:36               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 23:59                 ` David Gibson
2007-03-24  0:23                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 15:00         ` Scott Wood
2007-03-23 16:42           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 07/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_memory(), to fill in the /memory node Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:26   ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:32     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 23:42       ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 11:02         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23  3:24           ` David Gibson
2007-03-23  6:49             ` Stefan Roese
2007-03-23  7:40               ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 12:34             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 08/17] bootwrapper: Make setprop accept a const buffer Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:27   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 09/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_cpu_clocks() Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:28   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 10/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_mac_addresses() Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:31   ` David Gibson
2007-03-18  0:22     ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-18 11:56       ` David Gibson
2007-03-19 15:09         ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-20  3:59           ` David Gibson
2007-03-20 14:00             ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21  2:54               ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 15:01                 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 15:25                   ` Jerry Van Baren
2007-03-21 15:55                     ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-22  0:06                   ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 15:13                     ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-22 15:15                     ` Jon Loeliger
2007-03-23  3:22                       ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 14:38                         ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-23 16:37                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 16:42                             ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-23 16:51                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 16:54                                 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-23 23:17                             ` David Gibson
2007-03-20 18:17           ` Jon Loeliger
2007-03-21 13:45           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 15:15             ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 19:07               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 19:10                 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 19:34                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 19:39                     ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 19:48                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 20:03                         ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 20:22                           ` Olof Johansson
2007-03-21 21:58                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 21:54                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 20:34                         ` Doug Maxey
2007-03-21 22:01                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 13:38         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 15:09           ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 11/17] bootwrapper: Make set_cmdline non-static, and accept a const buffer Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:36   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 12/17] bootwrapper: Make set_cmdline() create /chosen if it doesn't exist Scott Wood
2007-03-21 13:32   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 13/17] bootwrapper: Add ppcboot.h Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 14/17] bootwrapper: Add support for cuboot platforms Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 15/17] bootwrapper: Add cmd_wrap_dt Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 16/17] bootwrapper: Add a cuImage target Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 17/17] bootwrapper: cuboot for 83xx Scott Wood

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