From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677F2C433DB for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 22:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88FCF64E05 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 22:34:14 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 88FCF64E05 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=crudebyte.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Received: from localhost ([::1]:41788 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lF2jV-0006lB-E6 for qemu-devel@archiver.kernel.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:34:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37772) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lF2id-0006Cs-6y for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:33:19 -0500 Received: from kylie.crudebyte.com ([5.189.157.229]:58759) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lF2ib-00089T-2k for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2021 17:33:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=crudebyte.com; s=kylie; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Date:Subject:Cc:To:From: Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=9ul5o8Hu7naIdrDr/yDh4luZteKAYDR9ADBnrLt5OCM=; b=HTD3opBAqZryrbetvrp/uXq3HE 7gbmoH/P5X/6vlEOZlgw3GeBtiNoXlTjfGsMZw0xxSmBeml8cCb7fAozfRZ4BG8u+A1rN01+d+6L3 wFCBcqXBm7rxDfI0OFb3mz2AxUOgtJDRRSQoYINVbtznom4sDJj2/CdyrqKOpkLebSPAkoYaXVUBc 5CiWdxJYjnWyIT6sNhV8ghoI17hVDZbJ4BGOeDz5NB5GPbMXNwKy3Vevk+8YJ6GLqTUCXJZDYM38X y8ALdFjkjcN52Gv3A4xCbvQ96SUxoHZFz2I7X41F9EJsPDUwfSUqk597FJtb3A9bCk5jfPUUKQiy2 pPwywXSCBINLSfyZrvAu8+E5Tnt7FRJYAo8pqhIk2p/IxP2S0/E/UTDVf/1V6aApzv6wxBhEBT49Q q3KplUETipihwvCm3c5+WtlXEYryfqPue1WJCK3X63IgnFJtOFZdP3szjHvkpOyC49o0BDgqgk0kp AIDGmXYrkMLrI50TXL9gM/N+FabxJuR6v+tHkdjAfP0t2XSc7ZUYjQ51wnwUvcsb1bgS594zrRzI/ 5qxCO7KjpI8WacR2iLDUfVohteo5Q7GENTMUq9AH+sRn1NdvUCch/tj4HczSRpz14BM5b9N0MYeWi +RjxuUunmg+9zHXAGCjeILq1u3Kjwdr6CUNppYdaA=; From: Christian Schoenebeck To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Cc: Geoffrey McRae , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Pekkarinen , kraxel@redhat.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Autoconnect jack ports by default Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 23:33:14 +0100 Message-ID: <31652865.Htn8XJslzA@silver> In-Reply-To: <5694e258e36c6623aae5465aafeec951@hostfission.com> References: <20210224191927.19271-1-koalinux@gmail.com> <3407243.daszWApDLn@silver> <5694e258e36c6623aae5465aafeec951@hostfission.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.189.157.229; envelope-from=qemu_oss@crudebyte.com; helo=kylie.crudebyte.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2021 23:04:47 CET Geoffrey McRae wrote: > This goes against how all standard jack clients work, a new jack client > should not auto-connect at all unless explicitly configured to as if > there is an existing audio diagram configured (which is 99% of the time) > it will cause unexpected/undesired behavior. > > Jack is not supposed to be an 'automatic' system, it's the > responsibility of the patch bay software to route connections. > > The auto-connect feature exists to allow the jack audiodev to re-connect > a broken connection when the jack device restarts/reconnects. Well, that was also my idea first, and I would agree with you in case of a regular music app of course, but then I thought QEMU is probably not an average JACK client, and it simply lowers the entry level for new users who probably just want to output to system out anyway. I mean, are you piping QEMU into Ardour or something Geoffrey? This could still be overridden by passing a bogus pattern with argument "connect-ports" for people who prefer the patchbay approach in the end. So I would vote for the "make it easy for newbies" approach in this case, but I leave that up to you and Gerd to decide. :) Best regards, Christian Schoenebeck