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From: David Ahern <dahern@digitalocean.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org,
	prashantbhole.linux@gmail.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
	brouer@redhat.com, toke@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com,
	toshiaki.makita1@gmail.com, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	john.fastabend@gmail.com, ast@kernel.org, kafai@fb.com,
	songliubraving@fb.com, yhs@fb.com, andriin@fb.com,
	dsahern@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 09/11] tun: Support xdp in the Tx path for xdp_frames
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 21:27:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <318c0a44-b540-1c7f-9667-c01da5a8ac73@digitalocean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200302183040.tgnrg6tkblrjwsqj@ast-mbp>

On 3/2/20 11:30 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 08:20:11PM -0700, David Ahern wrote:
>> +
>> +		act = bpf_prog_run_xdp(xdp_prog, &xdp);
>> +		switch (act) {
>> +		case XDP_TX:    /* for Tx path, XDP_TX == XDP_PASS */
>> +			act = XDP_PASS;
>> +			break;
>> +		case XDP_PASS:
>> +			break;
>> +		case XDP_REDIRECT:
>> +			/* fall through */
>> +		default:
>> +			bpf_warn_invalid_xdp_action(act);
>> +			/* fall through */
>> +		case XDP_ABORTED:
>> +			trace_xdp_exception(tun->dev, xdp_prog, act);
>> +			/* fall through */
>> +		case XDP_DROP:
>> +			break;
>> +		}
> 
> patch 8 has very similar switch. Can you share the code?

Most likely; I'll take a look.

> 
> I'm worried that XDP_TX is a silent alias to XDP_PASS.
> What were the reasons to go with this approach?

As I stated in the cover letter:

"XDP_TX on Rx means send the packet out the device it arrived
on; given that, XDP_Tx for the Tx path is treated as equivalent to
XDP_PASS - ie., continue on the Tx path."

> imo it's less error prone and extensible to warn on XDP_TX.
> Which will mean that both XDP_TX and XDP_REDICT are not supported for egress atm.

I personally don't care either way; I was going with the simplest
concept from a user perspective.

> 
> Patches 8 and 9 cover tun only. I'd like to see egress hook to be implemented
> in at least one physical NIC. Pick any hw. Something that handles real frames.
> Adding this hook to virtual NIC is easy, but it doesn't demonstrate design
> trade-offs one would need to think through by adding egress hook to physical
> nic. That's why I think it's mandatory to have it as part of the patch set.
> 
> Patch 11 exposes egress to samples/bpf. It's nice, but without selftests it's
> no go. All new features must be exercised as part of selftests/bpf.

Patches that exercise the rtnetlink uapi are fairly easy to do on single
node; anything traffic related requires multiple nodes or namespace
level capabilities.  Unless I am missing something that is why all
current XDP tests ride on top of veth; veth changes are not part of this
set.

So to be clear you are saying that all new XDP features require patches
to a h/w nic, veth and whatever the author really cares about before new
features like this go in?

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-03  4:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-27  3:20 [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 00/11] Add support for XDP in egress path David Ahern
2020-02-27  3:20 ` [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 01/11] net: Add XDP setup and query commands for Tx programs David Ahern
2020-02-27  3:20 ` [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 02/11] net: Add BPF_XDP_EGRESS as a bpf_attach_type David Ahern
2020-02-27  3:20 ` [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 03/11] xdp: Add xdp_txq_info to xdp_buff David Ahern
2020-02-27  8:00   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-02-27 11:58     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-28  3:01       ` David Ahern
2020-02-28 10:10         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-27 20:44     ` David Ahern
2020-02-28 10:07       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-28 10:41         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-02-27  3:20 ` [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 04/11] net: Add IFLA_XDP_EGRESS for XDP programs in the egress path David Ahern
2020-02-27  3:20 ` [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 05/11] net: core: rename netif_receive_generic_xdp to do_generic_xdp_core David Ahern
2020-02-27  3:20 ` [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 06/11] net: core: Rename do_xdp_generic to do_xdp_generic_rx and export David Ahern
2020-02-27  3:20 ` [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 07/11] tun: set egress XDP program David Ahern
2020-03-02  3:32   ` Jason Wang
2020-03-02  3:52     ` David Ahern
2020-03-10  2:18     ` David Ahern
2020-02-27  3:20 ` [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 08/11] tun: Support xdp in the Tx path for skb David Ahern
2020-03-02  3:28   ` Jason Wang
2020-03-02  3:41     ` David Ahern
2020-03-03 10:46   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-03-03 15:36     ` David Ahern
2020-02-27  3:20 ` [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 09/11] tun: Support xdp in the Tx path for xdp_frames David Ahern
2020-03-02 18:30   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-03  4:27     ` David Ahern [this message]
2020-03-03  9:08       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-03-03 18:16       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-03 10:40   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-03-10  3:06     ` David Ahern
2020-03-10  3:44       ` David Ahern
2020-03-10  9:03         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-02-27  3:20 ` [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 10/11] libbpf: Add egress XDP support David Ahern
2020-02-27  3:20 ` [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 11/11] samples/bpf: xdp1, add " David Ahern
2020-02-27 11:55 ` [PATCH RFC v4 bpf-next 00/11] Add support for XDP in egress path Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-27 16:22   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-02-27 17:06     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-27 18:37       ` Alexei Starovoitov

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