From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261661AbVGKM2z (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:28:55 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261660AbVGKM2y (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:28:54 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.198]:30435 "EHLO wproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261661AbVGKM2l convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:28:41 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cyEsx1mp5PMa1afLvjHgN14YUmjH2gMc1/cH5Z5nHNLNVQUvA60rXGZvQkJ3H9nhZjy5ZV5QvkLUIRMWzslHKDK9W5lFCYLWRhBKW1yca89nAqM1LnUJZ+/BnWMT8xDbb1fiRT5H8V5y2inYYcJwMsmWbvl/dOsbWLZofOloLyc= Message-ID: <31d23c690507110528468aff8b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:28:35 +0200 From: Jaroslav Soltys Reply-To: Jaroslav Soltys To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: reiser4 plugins In-Reply-To: <42D06531.9060903@stesmi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050630153738.GU11013@nysv.org> <200506301952.j5UJqPrn013513@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl> <87wto5yo9o.fsf@evinrude.uhoreg.ca> <42D06531.9060903@stesmi.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > So basically if I write a program that works in both Gnome and KDE > I should (according to your description) implement my own VFS that > will use the Gnome or KDE VFS that will then use the OS VFS. > > Is it only me finding that a little silly? Maybe. Advantages of kde/gnome/other userland vfs ? Authentication when using SMB shares, transparent access to fish/webdav/ftp/... but only for applications that use these libraries. Maybe patched automount together with lufs plus some GUI for acquiring user credentials from kde/gnome user could do the same, but kde/gnome vfs is portable to other unices. Oh, by the way... mount something with smbmount and turn of that computer you mounted the share from. You must switch to root to be able to do umount -lf. But yes, I agree with you, it is silly and I would also like to have one good solution than two average ones. > I mean, if I am to have the same functionality under neither Gnome > nor VFS and they don't support something I need I _NEED_ a vfs so > that my program is so totally independent on anything at all. right, wouldn't it be nice to 'cd /mnt/webdav/' or '/mnt/ssh/infernal.machine/' in bash ? :) > My program calling My VFS which calls KDE/Gnome's VFS which calls the OS > VFS will be slowe than just calling the VFS immidiately - I do hope you > can see that. Some of kde/gnome vfs are not even filesystems at all, this is the main advantage of userland vfs. Imagine that it is possible for user to add new FS to kde/gnome, is it possible for him to add it to kernel without root access ? compile new module and load it ? (Un)fortunately not. jaro