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From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 21/21] ARM: Kirkwood: Remove DT support
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 16:19:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35719313.JyFlzSVKnx@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1392906070.30563.11.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>

On Thursday 20 February 2014 14:21:10 Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 14:53 +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 February 2014 12:51:04 Ian Campbell wrote:
> > * ixp4xx is too different from the others and I don't think it's
> >   possible to turn it over to multiplatform.
> > * I see a iop32x_defconfig in svn that you didn't mention here,
> >   but it's basically the same problem as ixp4xx.
> 
> This is only in Wheezy and not in trunk (which will become Jessie). AIUI
> support for these has been dropped for the next version of Debian so
> Wheezy is the last one and we don't need to worry about upgrade for
> these.

Ok, I see.

> TBH I'm not sure that ixp4xx isn't in the same boat, I suppose we'll
> see.

For all I know, the only interesting ixp4xx platforms are the consumer
products listed on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/, the other ones you support
are development boards that tend to exist only in very small quantities.

The main limitation would be the amount of installed RAM, which is
either 32MB or 64MB depending on the machine for these. Running a
modern Debian with these constraints is probably possible but
doesn't sound like fun. ;-)

Also, the upstream kernel port isn't that well maintained, a lot
the development seems to have happened in OpenWRT and not mainlined,
including a dozen new machines that were already ported in 2009.

Then again, Martin Michlmayr has instructions for running Wheezy
on the 32MB nslu2, and I guess as long as he's interested in the
hardware, new versions of Debian will keep running on it.

> > The embedded mxs family is probably most interesting among these,
> > but there is also a community around the wondermedia stuff, which is
> > used in cheap tablets and laptops.
> 
> Interesting. I don't know how many of these are supported by Debian --
> mostly these things get added when someone acquires one and scratches
> that itch.
> 
> I suppose if we could remove at least one existing flavour in favour of
> a v5 multiplatform config then there probably wouldn't be many
> objections to doing that.

That will probably come as a natural progression after kirkwood
gets replaced with mvebu.

> > As I said, it may be useful to do multiplatform support for MACH_ORION5x,
> > but for MACH_KIRKWOOD, we have come too far now to turn back.
> 
> Understood. It sounds like mach-kirkwood is very close to being
> removable altogether though (by migrating the last few boards to
> mach-mvebu), which would make distro upgrades much simpler, since we can
> just do a straight swap rather than trying to figure out which one we
> need.

Yes, makes sense.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-20 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-06 23:41 [PATCH 00/21] Move DT kirkwood into mach-mvebu Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:41 ` [PATCH 01/21] ARM: Kirkwood: Give pm.c its own header file Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:41 ` [PATCH 02/21] IRQ: Orion: Fix getting generic chip pointer Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07  2:38   ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-07 22:32   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-02-08 15:45     ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-06 23:41 ` [PATCH 03/21] ARM: Kirkwood: Convert mv88f6281gtw_ge switch setup to DT Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07  8:25   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-07  9:02     ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 04/21] ARM: Kirkwood: Drop printing the SoC type and revision Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 05/21] ARM: Kirkwood: Seperate board-dt from common and pcie code Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 06/21] ARM: Kirkwood: ioremap the cpu_config register before using it Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 07/21] ARM: Kirkwood: ioremap memory control register Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 08/21] ARM: MVEBU: Add ARCH_MULTI_V7 to SoCs Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 09/21] ARM: Orion: Move cache-feroceon-l2.h out of plat-orion Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 10/21] ARM: MM: Add DT binding for Feroceon L2 cache Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07  0:51   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-07  1:27   ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-07  9:32     ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07 14:31       ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-07 18:13       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-07 14:48   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-02-07 18:21     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-07 19:12       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 11/21] ARM: Fix default CPU selection for ARCH_MULTI_V5 Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 12/21] ARM: Fix MULTI_TLB for feroceon Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 13/21] ARM: MM Enable building Feroceon L2 cache controller with ARCH_MVEBU Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 14/21] ARM: Move kirkwood DT boards into mach-mvebu Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 15/21] ARM: MVEBU: Let kirkwood use the system controller for restart Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07  1:37   ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 16/21] drivers: Enable building of Kirkwood drivers for mach-mvebu Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07  1:59   ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-07  9:13     ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07 14:35       ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 17/21] ARM: MVEBU: Enable mvebu-soc-id on Kirkwood Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 18/21] ARM: config: Add a multi_v5_defconfig Andrew Lunn
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 19/21] ARM: MVEBU: Simplifiy headers and make local Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07  8:31   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-07  9:20     ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07  9:36       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-07  9:45         ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07 18:27     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 20/21] ARM: MVEBU: Remove unneeded headers Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07  2:02   ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-06 23:42 ` [PATCH 21/21] ARM: Kirkwood: Remove DT support Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07  8:33   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-07  9:12     ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07 15:03     ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-07 15:09       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-07 15:15         ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-07 17:31           ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-02-10 18:09         ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-07 17:34   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-02-07 18:48     ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-20 10:30     ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 10:58       ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-20 11:19         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-20 11:28           ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-20 11:39           ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 23:26             ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-24 16:00               ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-24 16:24                 ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-24 16:26                   ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-24 16:34                     ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-03 13:19                   ` Automatically detecting when to use kirkwood-tsXXX-6281.dtb vs -6282.dtb (Was: Re: [PATCH 21/21] ARM: Kirkwood: Remove DT support) Ian Campbell
2014-05-03 14:40                     ` Andrew Lunn
2014-05-05  8:44                       ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 11:34         ` [PATCH 21/21] ARM: Kirkwood: Remove DT support Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 12:18           ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-20 12:51             ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 13:23               ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-20 14:24                 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-21  2:00                   ` Ben Hutchings
2014-02-21 13:16                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-24 16:03                     ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-24 20:09                       ` Ben Hutchings
2014-02-20 13:53               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-20 14:21                 ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 15:19                   ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-02-21  1:47                     ` Ben Hutchings
2014-02-21 13:07                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-21 15:58                         ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-21 19:51                         ` Ben Hutchings
2014-02-20 13:04             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-20 14:22               ` Ian Campbell
2014-02-20 12:09         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-20 23:24         ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-21 15:52           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-21 16:36             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-21 16:41               ` Andrew Lunn
2014-02-21 16:42               ` Jason Cooper
2014-02-23 21:44               ` Simon Guinot
2014-02-25 12:44                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-25 13:05                   ` Simon Guinot
2014-02-25 15:36                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-25 15:09                       ` Simon Guinot
2014-02-25 15:59                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-07  1:14 ` [PATCH 00/21] Move DT kirkwood into mach-mvebu Jason Cooper

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