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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov <snovitoll@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm: memdup_user*() should use same gfp flags
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:42:01 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3692c9b6-2729-4e27-dd0d-a2db47d1f7ae@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <847543f8-491c-f5a5-39b6-561fefbc1219@schaufler-ca.com>

On 2021/01/28 8:27, Casey Schaufler wrote:
>>> There is no point with allowing userspace to allocate 2GB of physically non-contiguous
>>> memory using kvmalloc(). Size is controlled by userspace, and memdup_user_nul() is used
>>> for allocating temporary memory which will be released before returning to userspace.
>>>
>>> Sane userspace processes should allocate only one or a few pages using memdup_user_nul().
>>> Just making insane user processes (like fuzzer) fail memory allocation requests is a
>>> reasonable decision.
>> (cc Casey)
>>
>> I'd say that the immediate problem is in smk_write_syslog().  Obviously
>> it was implemented expecting small writes, but the fuzzer is passing it a
>> huge write and things fall apart.
> 
> Yes, Smack should be checking that. Patch is in the works.

Caller of memdup_user_nul() is responsible for making sure that size != -1 in order to
avoid integer overflow overlooked by kmalloc(0) != NULL because memdup_user_nul() allocates
size + 1 bytes. And this is automatically made sure for smackfs because vfs_write() makes
sure that size <= (INT_MAX & PAGE_MASK) bytes.

But some legitimate userspace might be already doing "write(fd, buffer, 20000);" for
smk_write_onlycap()/smk_write_relabel_self(). How can you guarantee that introducing
upper limit on the caller side does not break existing userspace tools?

If some caller wants size > 32767 for memdup_user_nul(), it is just a matter of introducing
vmemdup_user_nul(). memdup_user() and memdup_user_nul() had better behave similarly.
There is no reason to use different gfp flags between memdup_user() and memdup_user_nul().

> I hates fuzzers.

A surprising comment from security person. Smack is free to opt out of syzbot testing. :-)



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-28  7:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-20  4:18 [PATCH] mm: add __GFP_NOWARN to memdup_user_nul() Tetsuo Handa
2021-01-20 10:34 ` [PATCH v2] mm: memdup_user*() should use same gfp flags Tetsuo Handa
2021-01-22  1:35   ` Andrew Morton
2021-01-22 10:47     ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-01-25 13:32       ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-25 14:20         ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-01-25 15:44           ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-26 11:13             ` Sabyrzhan Tasbolatov
2021-01-27 10:55               ` [PATCH v3] " Tetsuo Handa
2021-01-27 11:59                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-01-27 12:17                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <3e01b180-0a5b-f2aa-6247-1c3bbcabe1ed@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
2021-01-27 23:19                       ` Andrew Morton
2021-01-27 23:27                         ` Casey Schaufler
2021-01-28  7:42                           ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2021-01-28  8:06                         ` Michal Hocko

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