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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 10/18] mm: Allow non-hugetlb large folios to be batch processed
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:41:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <36bdda72-2731-440e-ad15-39b845401f50@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85cc26ed-6386-4d6b-b680-1e5fba07843f@arm.com>

On 06/03/2024 16:19, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 06/03/2024 16:09, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 01:42:06PM +0000, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>> When running some swap tests with this change (which is in mm-stable)
>>> present, I see BadThings(TM). Usually I see a "bad page state"
>>> followed by a delay of a few seconds, followed by an oops or NULL
>>> pointer deref. Bisect points to this change, and if I revert it,
>>> the problem goes away.
>>
>> That oops is really messed up ;-(  We're clearly got two CPUs oopsing at
>> the same time and it's all interleaved.  That said, I can pick some
>> nuggets out of it.
>>
>>> [   76.239466] BUG: Bad page state in process usemem  pfn:2554a0
>>> [   76.240196] kernel BUG at include/linux/mm.h:1120!
>>
>> These are the two different BUGs being called simultaneously ...
>>
>> The first one is bad_page() in page_alloc.c and the second is
>> put_page_testzero()
>>         VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(page_ref_count(page) == 0, page);
>>
>> I'm sure it's significant that both of these are the same page (pfn
>> 2554a0).  Feels like we have two CPUs calling put_folio() at the same
>> time, and one of them underflows.  It probably doesn't matter which call
>> trace ends up in bad_page() and which in put_page_testzero().
>>
>> One of them is coming from deferred_split_scan(), which is weird because
>> we can see the folio_try_get() earlier in the function.  So whatever
>> this folio was, we found it on the deferred split list, got its refcount,
>> moved it to the local list, either failed to get the lock, or
>> successfully got the lock, split it, unlocked it and put it.
>>
>> (I can see this was invoked from page fault -> memcg shrinking.  That's
>> probably irrelevant but explains some of the functions in the backtrace)
>>
>> The other call trace comes from migrate_folio_done() where we're putting
>> the _source_ folio.  That was called from migrate_pages_batch() which
>> was called from kcompactd.
>>
>> Um.  Where do we handle the deferred list in the migration code?
>>
>>
>> I've also tried looking at this from a different angle -- what is it
>> about this commit that produces this problem?  It's a fairly small
>> commit:
>>
>> -               if (folio_test_large(folio)) {
>> +               /* hugetlb has its own memcg */
>> +               if (folio_test_hugetlb(folio)) {
>>                         if (lruvec) {
>>                                 unlock_page_lruvec_irqrestore(lruvec, flags);
>>                                 lruvec = NULL;
>>                         }
>> -                       __folio_put_large(folio);
>> +                       free_huge_folio(folio);
>>
>> So all that's changed is that large non-hugetlb folios do not call
>> __folio_put_large().  As a reminder, that function does:
>>
>>         if (!folio_test_hugetlb(folio))
>>                 page_cache_release(folio);
>>         destroy_large_folio(folio);
>>
>> and destroy_large_folio() does:
>>         if (folio_test_large_rmappable(folio))
>>                 folio_undo_large_rmappable(folio);
>>
>>         mem_cgroup_uncharge(folio);
>>         free_the_page(&folio->page, folio_order(folio));
>>
>> So after my patch, instead of calling (in order):
>>
>> 	page_cache_release(folio);
>> 	folio_undo_large_rmappable(folio);
>> 	mem_cgroup_uncharge(folio);
>> 	free_unref_page()
>>
>> it calls:
>>
>> 	__page_cache_release(folio, &lruvec, &flags);
>> 	mem_cgroup_uncharge_folios()
>> 	folio_undo_large_rmappable(folio);
>>
>> So have I simply widened the window for this race 
> 
> Yes that's the conclusion I'm coming to. I have reverted this patch and am still
> seeing what looks like the same problem very occasionally. (I was just about to
> let you know when I saw this reply). It's much harder to reproduce now... great.
> 
> The original oops I reported against your RFC is here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/eeaf36cf-8e29-4de2-9e5a-9ec2a5e30c61@arm.com/
> 
> Looks like I had UBSAN enabled for that run. Let me turn on all the bells and
> whistles and see if I can get it to repro more reliably to bisect.
> 
> Assuming the original oops and this are related, that implies that the problem
> is lurking somewhere in this series, if not this patch.
> 
> I'll come back to you shortly...

Just a bunch of circumstantial observations, I'm afraid. No conclusions yet...

With this patch reverted:

- Haven't triggered with any of the sanitizers compiled in
- Have only triggered when my code is on top (swap-out mTHP)
- Have only triggered when compiled using GCC 12.2 (can't trigger with 11.4)

So perhaps I'm looking at 2 different things, with this new intermittent problem
caused by my changes. Or perhaps my changes increase the window significantly.

I have to go pick up my daughter now. Can look at this some more tomorrow, but
struggling for ideas - need a way to more reliably reproduce.

> 
>> , whatever it is
>> exactly?  Something involving mis-handling of the deferred list?
>>
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-06 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-27 17:42 [PATCH v3 00/18] Rearrange batched folio freeing Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 01/18] mm: Make folios_put() the basis of release_pages() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 02/18] mm: Convert free_unref_page_list() to use folios Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 03/18] mm: Add free_unref_folios() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 04/18] mm: Use folios_put() in __folio_batch_release() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 05/18] memcg: Add mem_cgroup_uncharge_folios() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 06/18] mm: Remove use of folio list from folios_put() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 07/18] mm: Use free_unref_folios() in put_pages_list() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 08/18] mm: use __page_cache_release() in folios_put() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 09/18] mm: Handle large folios in free_unref_folios() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 10/18] mm: Allow non-hugetlb large folios to be batch processed Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-03-06 13:42   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-06 16:09     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-06 16:19       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-06 17:41         ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2024-03-06 18:41           ` Zi Yan
2024-03-06 19:55             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-06 21:55               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-07  8:56                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-07 13:50                   ` Yin, Fengwei
2024-03-07 14:05                     ` Re: Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-07 15:24                       ` Re: Ryan Roberts
2024-03-07 16:24                         ` Re: Ryan Roberts
2024-03-07 23:02                           ` Re: Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-08  1:06                       ` Re: Yin, Fengwei
2024-03-07 17:33                   ` [PATCH v3 10/18] mm: Allow non-hugetlb large folios to be batch processed Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-07 18:35                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-07 20:42                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-08 11:44                     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-08 12:09                       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-08 14:21                         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-08 15:11                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-08 16:03                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-08 17:13                               ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-08 18:09                                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-08 18:18                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-09  4:34                                     ` Andrew Morton
2024-03-09  4:52                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-09  8:05                                         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-09 12:33                                           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-10 13:38                                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-08 15:33                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-09  6:09                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-09  7:59                         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-09  8:18                           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-09  9:38                             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-10  4:23                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-10  8:23                                 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-10 11:08                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-10 11:01       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-10 11:11         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-10 16:31           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-10 19:57             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-10 19:59             ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-10 20:46               ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-10 21:52                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-11  9:01                   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 12:26                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-11 12:36                       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 15:50                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-11 16:14                           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 17:49                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-12 11:57                               ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-11 19:26                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-10 11:14         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 11/18] mm: Free folios in a batch in shrink_folio_list() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 12/18] mm: Free folios directly in move_folios_to_lru() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 13/18] memcg: Remove mem_cgroup_uncharge_list() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 14/18] mm: Remove free_unref_page_list() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 15/18] mm: Remove lru_to_page() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 16/18] mm: Convert free_pages_and_swap_cache() to use folios_put() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 17/18] mm: Use a folio in __collapse_huge_page_copy_succeeded() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2024-02-27 17:42 ` [PATCH v3 18/18] mm: Convert free_swap_cache() to take a folio Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)

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