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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>
Cc: "Hongyan Xia" <hongyxia@amazon.com>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>, "Wei Liu" <wl@xen.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"Julien Grall" <jgrall@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/22] x86/srat: vmap the pages for acpi_slit
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:16:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <386a58bc-6d16-475e-ffd5-a3340adbe4b3@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a607223f-1cd5-5b32-4d9b-500496745786@xen.org>

On 13.01.2023 00:15, Julien Grall wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 04/01/2023 10:23, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 23.12.2022 12:31, Julien Grall wrote:
>>> On 20/12/2022 15:30, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 16.12.2022 12:48, Julien Grall wrote:
>>>>> From: Hongyan Xia <hongyxia@amazon.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> This avoids the assumption that boot pages are in the direct map.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Hongyan Xia <hongyxia@amazon.com>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall <jgrall@amazon.com>
>>>>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
>>>>
>>>> However, ...
>>>>
>>>>> --- a/xen/arch/x86/srat.c
>>>>> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/srat.c
>>>>> @@ -139,7 +139,8 @@ void __init acpi_numa_slit_init(struct acpi_table_slit *slit)
>>>>>    		return;
>>>>>    	}
>>>>>    	mfn = alloc_boot_pages(PFN_UP(slit->header.length), 1);
>>>>> -	acpi_slit = mfn_to_virt(mfn_x(mfn));
>>>>> +	acpi_slit = vmap_contig_pages(mfn, PFN_UP(slit->header.length));
>>>>
>>>> ... with the increased use of vmap space the VA range used will need
>>>> growing. And that's perhaps better done ahead of time than late.
>>>
>>> I will have a look to increase the vmap().
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> +	BUG_ON(!acpi_slit);
>>>>
>>>> Similarly relevant for the earlier patch: It would be nice if boot
>>>> failure for optional things like NUMA data could be avoided.
>>>
>>> If you can't map (or allocate the memory), then you are probably in a
>>> very bad situation because both should really not fail at boot.
>>>
>>> So I think this is correct to crash early because the admin will be able
>>> to look what went wrong. Otherwise, it may be missed in the noise.
>>
>> Well, I certainly can see one taking this view. However, at least in
>> principle allocation (or mapping) may fail _because_ of NUMA issues.
> 
> Right. I read this as the user will likely want to add "numa=off" on the 
> command line.
> 
>> At which point it would be better to boot with NUMA support turned off
> I have to disagree with "better" here. This may work for a user with a 
> handful of hosts. But for large scale setup, you will really want a 
> failure early rather than having a host booting with an expected feature 
> disabled (the NUMA issues may be a broken HW).
> 
> It is better to fail and then ask the user to specify "numa=off". At
> least the person made a conscientious decision to turn off the feature.

Yet how would the observing admin make the connection from the BUG_ON()
that triggered and the need to add "numa=off" to the command line,
without knowing Xen internals?

> I am curious to hear the opinion from the others.

So am I.

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-13  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-16 11:48 [PATCH 00/22] Remove the directmap Julien Grall
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 01/22] xen/common: page_alloc: Re-order includes Julien Grall
2022-12-16 12:03   ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-23  9:29     ` Julien Grall
2023-01-23 21:29   ` Stefano Stabellini
2023-01-23 21:57     ` Julien Grall
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 02/22] x86/setup: move vm_init() before acpi calls Julien Grall
2022-12-20 15:08   ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-21 10:18     ` Julien Grall
2022-12-21 10:22       ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-23  9:51         ` Julien Grall
2022-12-23  9:51     ` Julien Grall
2023-01-23 21:34   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 03/22] acpi: vmap pages in acpi_os_alloc_memory Julien Grall
2022-12-16 12:07   ` Julien Grall
2022-12-20 15:15   ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-21 10:23     ` Julien Grall
2023-01-23 21:39   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 04/22] xen/numa: vmap the pages for memnodemap Julien Grall
2022-12-20 15:25   ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 05/22] x86/srat: vmap the pages for acpi_slit Julien Grall
2022-12-20 15:30   ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-23 11:31     ` Julien Grall
2023-01-04 10:23       ` Jan Beulich
2023-01-12 23:15         ` Julien Grall
2023-01-13  9:16           ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2023-01-13  9:17             ` Julien Grall
2023-01-30 19:27       ` Julien Grall
2023-01-31  9:11         ` Jan Beulich
2023-01-31 21:37           ` Julien Grall
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 06/22] x86: map/unmap pages in restore_all_guests Julien Grall
2022-12-22 11:12   ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-23 12:22     ` Julien Grall
2023-01-04 10:27       ` Jan Beulich
2023-01-12 23:20         ` Julien Grall
2023-01-13  9:22           ` Jan Beulich
2023-06-22 10:44             ` Julien Grall
2023-06-22 13:19               ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 07/22] x86/pv: domheap pages should be mapped while relocating initrd Julien Grall
2022-12-22 11:18   ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 08/22] x86/pv: rewrite how building PV dom0 handles domheap mappings Julien Grall
2022-12-22 11:48   ` Jan Beulich
2024-01-10 12:50     ` El Yandouzi, Elias
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 09/22] x86: lift mapcache variable to the arch level Julien Grall
2022-12-22 12:53   ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 10/22] x86/mapcache: initialise the mapcache for the idle domain Julien Grall
2022-12-22 13:06   ` Jan Beulich
2024-01-10 16:24     ` Elias El Yandouzi
2024-01-11  7:53       ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 11/22] x86: add a boot option to enable and disable the direct map Julien Grall
2022-12-22 13:24   ` Jan Beulich
2024-01-11 10:47     ` Elias El Yandouzi
2024-01-11 11:53       ` Jan Beulich
2024-01-11 12:25         ` Julien Grall
2024-01-11 14:09           ` Jan Beulich
2024-01-11 18:25             ` Elias El Yandouzi
2024-01-12  7:47               ` Jan Beulich
2024-01-15 14:50                 ` Elias El Yandouzi
2024-01-16  8:30                   ` Jan Beulich
2023-01-23 21:45   ` Stefano Stabellini
2023-01-23 22:01     ` Julien Grall
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 12/22] xen/arm: fixmap: Rename the fixmap slots to follow the x86 convention Julien Grall
2022-12-22 13:29   ` Jan Beulich
2023-01-06 14:54   ` Henry Wang
2023-01-23 21:47   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 13/22] xen/x86: Add support for the PMAP Julien Grall
2023-01-05 16:46   ` Jan Beulich
2023-01-05 17:50     ` Julien Grall
2023-01-06  7:17       ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 14/22] x86/domain_page: remove the fast paths when mfn is not in the directmap Julien Grall
2023-01-11 14:11   ` Jan Beulich
2024-01-11 14:22     ` Elias El Yandouzi
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 15/22] xen/page_alloc: add a path for xenheap when there is no direct map Julien Grall
2023-01-11 14:23   ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 16/22] x86/setup: leave early boot slightly earlier Julien Grall
2023-01-11 14:34   ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 17/22] x86/setup: vmap heap nodes when they are outside the direct map Julien Grall
2023-01-11 14:39   ` Jan Beulich
2023-01-23 22:03   ` Stefano Stabellini
2023-01-23 22:23     ` Julien Grall
2023-01-23 22:56       ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 18/22] x86/setup: do not create valid mappings when directmap=no Julien Grall
2023-01-11 14:47   ` Jan Beulich
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 19/22] xen/arm32: mm: Rename 'first' to 'root' in init_secondary_pagetables() Julien Grall
2023-01-06 14:54   ` Henry Wang
2023-01-23 22:06   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 20/22] xen/arm64: mm: Use per-pCPU page-tables Julien Grall
2023-01-06 14:54   ` Henry Wang
2023-01-06 15:44     ` Julien Grall
2023-01-07  2:22       ` Henry Wang
2023-01-23 22:21   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 21/22] xen/arm64: Implement a mapcache for arm64 Julien Grall
2023-01-06 14:55   ` Henry Wang
2023-01-23 22:34   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-12-16 11:48 ` [PATCH 22/22] xen/arm64: Allow the admin to enable/disable the directmap Julien Grall
2023-01-06 14:55   ` Henry Wang
2023-01-23 22:52   ` Stefano Stabellini
2023-01-23 23:09     ` Julien Grall
2023-01-24  0:12       ` Stefano Stabellini
2023-01-24 18:06         ` Julien Grall
2023-01-24 20:48           ` Stefano Stabellini

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