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From: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Linux fs Btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: user snapshots
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 07:28:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3950fb01-e9b1-d48e-9c51-061a2f896193@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170823211325.GC28319@rus.uni-stuttgart.de>

On 2017-08-23 17:13, Ulli Horlacher wrote:
> On Wed 2017-08-23 (12:42), Peter Grandi wrote:
>>> So, still: What is the problem with user_subvol_rm_allowed?
>>
>> As usual, it is complicated: mostly that while subvol creation
>> is very cheap, subvol deletion can be very expensive. But then
>> so can be creating many snapshots, as in this:
> 
> But it seems one cannot prohibit a user making snapshots?
> Then root must delete them?
> 
That is correct.  This is one of the big outstanding issues with BTRFS 
being practical for enterprise usage, because it means anyone with basic 
shell access and either the ability to run arbitrary byte code or access 
to execute /sbin/btrfs can exhaust system resources with no effort 
whatsoever.  Taken together with how subvolume creation interacts with 
qgroups, it also means that qgroups are useless in the same situation 
because it's trivial to escape them.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-25 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-22 13:22 netapp-alike snapshots? Ulli Horlacher
2017-08-22 13:44 ` Peter Becker
2017-08-22 14:24   ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-08-22 16:08     ` Peter Becker
2017-08-22 16:48       ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-08-22 16:45     ` Roman Mamedov
2017-08-22 16:57       ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-08-22 17:19         ` A L
2017-08-22 18:01           ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-08-22 18:36             ` Peter Grandi
2017-08-22 20:48               ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-08-23  7:18                 ` number of subvolumes Ulli Horlacher
2017-08-23  8:37                   ` A L
2017-08-23 16:48                     ` Ferry Toth
2017-08-24 17:45                       ` Peter Grandi
2017-08-31  6:49                         ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-08-31 11:18                           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-31 14:38                             ` Michał Sokołowski
2017-08-31 16:18                               ` Duncan
2017-09-01 10:21                                 ` ein
2017-09-01 11:47                                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-24 19:40                       ` Marat Khalili
2017-08-24 21:56                         ` Ferry Toth
2017-08-25  5:54                           ` Chris Murphy
2017-08-25 11:45                           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-25 12:55                             ` Ferry Toth
2017-08-25 19:18                               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-08-23 12:11                   ` Peter Grandi
2017-08-22 21:53               ` user snapshots Ulli Horlacher
2017-08-23  6:28                 ` Dmitrii Tcvetkov
2017-08-23  7:16                   ` Dmitrii Tcvetkov
2017-08-23  7:20                     ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-08-23 11:42                       ` Peter Grandi
2017-08-23 21:13                         ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-08-25 11:28                           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn [this message]
2017-08-22 17:36         ` netapp-alike snapshots? Roman Mamedov
2017-08-22 18:10           ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-09-09 13:26 ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-09-09 13:36   ` Marc MERLIN
2017-09-09 13:44     ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-09-09 19:43       ` Andrei Borzenkov
2017-09-09 19:52         ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-09-10  7:10           ` A L
2017-09-10 14:54         ` Marc MERLIN

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