From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270884AbTGQUeN (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:34:13 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270889AbTGQUeN (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:34:13 -0400 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:12452 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S270884AbTGQUeM (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:34:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3F170BB7.5030806@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:48:55 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik Organization: none User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021213 Debian/1.2.1-2.bunk X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David S. Miller" CC: schlicht@uni-mannheim.de, ricardo.b@zmail.pt, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: SET_MODULE_OWNER References: <1058446580.18647.11.camel@ezquiel.nara.homeip.net> <3F16C190.3080205@pobox.com> <200307171756.19826.schlicht@uni-mannheim.de> <3F16C83A.2010303@pobox.com> <20030717125942.7fab1141.davem@redhat.com> <3F170589.50005@pobox.com> <20030717131902.76c68c56.davem@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20030717131902.76c68c56.davem@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org David S. Miller wrote: > Module reference counting added complications to net device > handling, and once I killed it off we could begin addressing Coding is tough, let's go shopping. > all of the real bugs that exist with network devices. For example, > now that we're foreced to make net devices dynamic memory in all > cases we can deal with dangling procfs/sysfs references to the device > sanely. Fixing that was not possible with module refcounting. rmmod is now completely pointless, and developers now have one less useful tool in their toolbox. I code all the time doing "modprobe ; test ; rmmod", and that's now impossible. Jeff