From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261772AbTJHTMr (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:12:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261779AbTJHTMr (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:12:47 -0400 Received: from cpe-24-221-190-179.ca.sprintbbd.net ([24.221.190.179]:54960 "EHLO myware.akkadia.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261772AbTJHTMp (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:12:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3F846183.9010205@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 12:12:03 -0700 From: Ulrich Drepper Organization: Red Hat, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030925 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bert hubert CC: "'Kernel Mailing List'" Subject: Re: Who changed /proc// in 2.6.0-test5-bk9? References:

<20031008104726.GA4655@outpost.ds9a.nl> In-Reply-To: <20031008104726.GA4655@outpost.ds9a.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.81.7.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 bert hubert wrote: > I may be missing something, I'm all for the ability to have threads with > their own fd namespace, but will NPTL/Linux retain the capability to pass > fd's to other threads? Grr, somebody should have killed this thread before these pointless, irritating, and simply wrong arguments were made by the White fella. Exactly because it's irritating many readers as can be witnessed above. The kernel thread functionality is not used 1-to-1 in the userlevel interfaces of the pthread library. One very specific combination of all the CLONE_* flags is used in libpthread. Other users of the kernel might use other combinations and they won't implement pthreads. That is perfectly fine and if it fits your bill, do it. But none of this ever has any influence on the pthread interface. The properties like sharing of file descriptors are guaranteed. If somebody insists in future to discuss kernel "thread" related issues, use the term "clone" instead of "thread". This will keep the irritation level down. - -- - --------------. ,-. 444 Castro Street Ulrich Drepper \ ,-----------------' \ Mountain View, CA 94041 USA Red Hat `--' drepper at redhat.com `--------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/hGGD2ijCOnn/RHQRAv54AJ0XYGVQ1Iawhwm237eULPP4lFeK9ACfSrc2 A8XJuJGBecVfACkEAVPmYrA= =EGWH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----