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From: Nikolay Borisov <nborisov@suse.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, tytso@mit.edu, jack@suse.cz,
	willy@infradead.org, neilb@suse.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] fs: new infrastructure for writeback error handling and reporting
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 10:12:48 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3b4d45be-ef00-04a5-5858-126c5aeaa76f@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170331192603.16442-2-jlayton@redhat.com>



On 31.03.2017 22:26, Jeff Layton wrote:
> Most filesystems currently use mapping_set_error and
> filemap_check_errors for setting and reporting/clearing writeback errors
> at the mapping level. filemap_check_errors is indirectly called from
> most of the filemap_fdatawait_* functions and from
> filemap_write_and_wait*. These functions are called from all sorts of
> contexts to wait on writeback to finish -- e.g. mostly in fsync, but
> also in truncate calls, getattr, etc.
> 
> It's those non-fsync callers that are problematic. We should be
> reporting writeback errors during fsync, but many places in the code
> clear out errors before they can be properly reported, or report errors
> at nonsensical times. If I get -EIO on a stat() call, how do I know that
> was because writeback failed?
> 
> This patch adds a small bit of new infrastructure for setting and
> reporting errors during pagecache writeback. While the above was my
> original impetus for adding this, I think it's also the case that
> current fsync semantics are just problematic for userland. Most
> applications that call fsync do so to ensure that the data they wrote
> has hit the backing store.
> 
> In the case where there are multiple writers to the file at the same
> time, this is really hard to determine. The first one to call fsync will
> see any stored error, and the rest get back 0. The processes with open
> fd may not be associated with one another in any way. They could even be
> in different containers, so ensuring coordination between all fsync
> callers is not really an option.
> 
> One way to remedy this would be to track what file descriptor was used
> to dirty the file, but that's rather cumbersome and would likely be
> slow. However, there is a simpler way to improve the semantics here
> without incurring too much overhead.
> 
> This set adds a wb_error field and a sequence counter to the
> address_space, and a corresponding sequence counter in the struct file.
> When errors are reported during writeback, we set the error field in the
> mapping and increment the sequence counter.
> 
> When fsync or flush is called, we check the sequence in the file vs. the
> one in the mapping. If the file's counter is behind the one in the
> mapping, then we update the sequence counter in the file to the value of
> the one in the mapping and report the error. If the file is "caught up"
> then we just report 0.
> 
> This changes the semantics of fsync such that applications can now use
> it to determine whether there were any writeback errors since fsync(fd)
> was last called (or since the file was opened in the case of fsync
> having never been called).
> 
> Note that those writeback errors may have occurred when writing data
> that was dirtied via an entirely different fd, but that's the case now
> with the current mapping_set_error/filemap_check_error infrastructure.
> This will at least prevent you from getting a false report of success.
> 
> The basic idea here is for filesystems to use filemap_set_wb_error to
> set the error in the mapping when there are writeback errors, and then
> have the fsync and flush operations call filemap_report_wb_error just
> before returning to ensure that those errors get reported properly.
> 
> Eventually, it may make sense to move the reporting into the generic
> vfs_fsync_range helper, but doing it this way for now makes it simpler
> to convert filesystems to the new API individually.

There is already a mapping_set_error API which sets flags in
mapping->flags (AS_EIO/AS_ENOSPC). Aren't you essentially duplicating
some of the semantics of that API ?

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-03  7:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-31 19:25 [RFC PATCH 0/4] fs: introduce new writeback error tracking infrastructure and convert ext4 to use it Jeff Layton
2017-03-31 19:26 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] fs: new infrastructure for writeback error handling and reporting Jeff Layton
2017-04-03  7:12   ` Nikolay Borisov [this message]
2017-04-03 10:28     ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-03 14:47   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-03 15:19     ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-03 16:15       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-03 16:30         ` Jeff Layton
2017-03-31 19:26 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] dax: set errors in mapping when writeback fails Jeff Layton
2017-03-31 19:26 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] buffer: set wb errors using both new and old infrastructure for now Jeff Layton
2017-03-31 19:26 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] ext4: wire it up to the new writeback error reporting infrastructure Jeff Layton
2017-04-03  4:25 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] fs: introduce new writeback error tracking infrastructure and convert ext4 to use it NeilBrown
2017-04-03 10:28   ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-03 14:32     ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-03 17:47       ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-03 18:09         ` Jeremy Allison
2017-04-03 18:18           ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-03 18:36             ` Jeremy Allison
2017-04-03 18:40               ` Jeremy Allison
2017-04-03 18:49                 ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-03 19:16         ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-03 20:16           ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-04  2:45             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-04  3:03             ` NeilBrown
2017-04-04 11:41               ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-04 22:41                 ` NeilBrown
2017-04-04 11:53               ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-04 12:17                 ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-04 16:12                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-04 16:25                     ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-04 17:09                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-04 18:08                         ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-04 22:50                         ` NeilBrown
2017-04-05 19:49                         ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-05 21:03                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-06  0:19                             ` NeilBrown
2017-04-06  0:02                           ` NeilBrown
2017-04-06  2:55                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-06  5:12                               ` NeilBrown
2017-04-06 13:31                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-06 21:53                                   ` NeilBrown
2017-04-06 14:02                             ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-06 19:14                             ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-06 20:05                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-04-07 13:12                                 ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-09 23:15                                   ` NeilBrown
2017-04-10 13:19                                     ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-06 22:15                               ` NeilBrown
2017-04-04 23:13                       ` NeilBrown
2017-04-05 11:14                         ` Jeff Layton
2017-04-06  0:24                           ` NeilBrown
2017-04-04 13:38                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-04-04 22:28                 ` NeilBrown
2017-04-03 14:51   ` Matthew Wilcox

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