[virtio-comment] RE: [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] [PATCH RFC] VIRTIO_F_PARTIAL_ORDER for page fault handling

[Lars Ganrot <lga@napatech.com>]

Hi Michael,

Short comment below.

BR,

-Lars

> From: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org <virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org> On
> Behalf Of Michael S. Tsirkin
> Sent: 11. august 2020 10:23
> 
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 06:59:28PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 12:15:15 -0400
> > "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Devices that normally use buffers in order can benefit from ability
> > > to temporarily switch to handle some buffers out of order.
> > >
> > > As a case in point, a networking device might handle RX buffers in
> > > order normally. However, should an access to an RX buffer cause a
> > > page fault (e.g. when using PRI), the device could benefit from
> > > ability to temporarily keep using following buffers in the ring
> > > (possibly with higher overhead) until the fault has been resolved.
> > >
> > > Page faults allow more features such as THP, auto-NUMA, live
> > > migration.
> > >
> > > Out of order is of course already possible, however, IN_ORDER is
> > > currently required for descriptor batching where device marks a
> > > whole batch of buffers used in one go.
> > >
> > > The idea behind this proposal is to relax that requirement, allowing
> > > batching without asking device to be in orde rat all times, as
> > > follows:
> > >
> > > Device uses buffers in any order. Eventually when device detects
> > > that it has used all previously outstanding buffers, it sets a FLUSH
> > > flag on the last buffer used. If it set this flag on the last buffer
> > > used previously, and now uses a batch of descriptors in-order, it
> > > can now signal the last buffer used again setting the FLUSH flag.
> > >
> > > Driver can detect in-order when it sees two FLUSH flags one after
> > > another. In other respects the feature is similar to IN_ORDER from
> > > the driver implementation POV.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > >  content.tex     |  9 ++++++++-
> > >  packed-ring.tex | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++  split-ring.tex  | 26
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> > >  3 files changed, 55 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex index 91735e3..8494eb6 100644
> > > --- a/content.tex
> > > +++ b/content.tex
> > > @@ -296,7 +296,11 @@ \section{Virtqueues}\label{sec:Basic Facilities
> > > of a Virtio Device / Virtqueues}
> > >
> > >  Some devices always use descriptors in the same order in which
> > > they have been made available. These devices can offer the
> > > -VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER feature. If negotiated, this knowledge
> > > +VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER feature.  Other devices sometimes use descriptors
> > > +in the same order in which they have been made available. These
> > > +devices can offer the VIRTIO_F_PARTIAL_ORDER feature. If one of the
> > > +features VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER or VIRTIO_F_PARTIAL_ORDER is
> negotiated,
> > > +this knowledge
> >
> > Do these two features conflict with each other? I.e., at most one of
> > them may be negotiated (or offered?) at a time?
> 
> Good point. I think so, yes. Will document.

Isn't it more natural to think of VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER as the simple case which always maintains ordered access, while the new feature flag allows active control of when descriptors are ordered and when not? To make it backward compatible let VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER imply the new bit is set, while the new bit set by itself without VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER set means only active control is offered. I guess a name like VIRTIO_F_CTRL_ORDER would be more appropriate with this interpretation.



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