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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
	alim.akhtar@samsung.com, avri.altman@wdc.com,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: ufs: mark HPB support as BROKEN
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 09:06:05 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3f43feaa-5c3a-9e4c-ebc1-c982b0723e7e@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YXlqSRLHuIFiMLY7@T590>

On 10/27/21 9:03 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 07:12:31AM -0700, Keith Busch wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 06:16:19AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>>> On 10/26/21 10:27 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 01:10:47PM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>>>>> If blk_insert_cloned_request() is moved into the device mapper then I
>>>>> think that blk_mq_request_issue_directly() will need to be exported.
>>>>
>>>> Which is even worse.
>>>>
>>>>> How
>>>>> about the (totally untested) patch below for removing the
>>>>> blk_insert_cloned_request() call from the UFS-HPB code?
>>>>
>>>> Which again doesn't fix anything.  The problem is that it fans out one
>>>> request into two on the same queue, not the specific interface used.
>>>
>>> That patch fixes the reported issue, namely removing the additional accounting
>>> caused by calling blk_insert_cloned_request(). Please explain why it is
>>> considered wrong to fan out one request into two. That code could be reworked
>>> such that the block layer is not involved as Adrian Hunter explained. However,
>>> before someone spends time on making these changes I think that someone should
>>> provide more information about why it is considered wrong to fan out one request
>>> into two.
>>
>> The original request consumes a tag from that queue's tagset. If the
>> lifetime of that tag depends on that same queue having another free tag,
>> you can deadlock.
> 
> Just take a quick look at the code, if the spawned request can't be allocated,
> scsi will return BLK_STS_RESOURCE for the original scsi request which will be
> retried later by blk-mq.
> 
> So if tag depth is > 1 and max allowed inflight write buffer command is limited
> as 1, there shouldn't be the deadlock.
> 
> Or is it possible to reuse the original scsi request's tag for the
> spawned request? Like the trick used in inserting flush request.

The flush approach did come to mind here as well, but honestly that one is
very ugly and would never have been permitted if it wasn't excluded to be
in the very core code already. But yes, reuse of the existing request is
probably another potentially viable approach. My worry there is that
inevitably you end up needing to stash a lot of data to restore the original,
and we're certainly not adding anything to struct request for that.

Hence I think being able to find a new request reliably would be better.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-27 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-26  7:12 [PATCH] scsi: ufs: mark HPB support as BROKEN Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-26  7:18 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-10-26  7:24 ` Damien Le Moal
2021-10-26 13:04   ` James Bottomley
2021-10-26 16:36 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-26 17:19   ` James Bottomley
2021-10-26 17:25     ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-26 18:05       ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-26 18:10         ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-26 18:18           ` James Bottomley
2021-10-26 18:27             ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-10-26 20:10               ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-27  5:27                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-27 12:20                   ` James Bottomley
2021-10-28 20:21                     ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-28 20:33                       ` James Bottomley
2021-10-28 20:53                         ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                         ` <CGME20211028205342epcas2p40838e84438572adf052d106dc82e35ff@epcms2p6>
2021-10-28 21:14                           ` Daejun Park
2021-10-27 13:16                   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-27 14:12                     ` Keith Busch
2021-10-27 14:38                       ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-27 14:43                         ` James Bottomley
2021-10-27 15:03                       ` Ming Lei
2021-10-27 15:06                         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2021-10-27 15:16                           ` Ming Lei
2021-10-27 15:44                             ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-10-27 15:58                               ` Ming Lei
2021-10-27 16:16                                 ` Keith Busch
2021-10-27 16:19                                   ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-28  0:42                                   ` Ming Lei
     [not found]                                   ` <CGME20211028004244epcas2p1f2212bf94ef861dfa6cd082c3cbb1803@epcms2p1>
2021-10-28  1:10                                     ` Daejun Park
2021-10-28  2:07                                       ` Ming Lei
2021-10-27 16:59                                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-10-27 15:35                           ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-10-27 15:40                             ` Jens Axboe
2021-10-27 16:16                               ` Martin K. Petersen
2021-10-27 17:01                                 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-28  1:32                                   ` Ming Lei
     [not found]               ` <CGME20211026201057epcas2p4174ba542fd5abe7ec8f4469f8c60303a@epcms2p7>
2021-10-26 22:22                 ` Daejun Park
2021-10-29 10:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-29 11:39   ` James Bottomley
2021-10-29 13:35     ` Avri Altman
2021-10-29 13:44       ` James Bottomley

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