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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
	"linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org" 
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Silviu Vlasceanu <Silviu.Vlasceanu@huawei.com>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	"viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RESEND][PATCH] ima: Set and clear FMODE_CAN_READ in ima_calc_file_hash()
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 13:35:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3f8cc7c9462353ac2eef58e39beee079bdd9c7b4.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjd0RNthZQTLVsnK_d9SFYH0rug2tkezLLB0J-YZzVC+Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 2020-11-16 at 10:09 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:41 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > The "issue" with IMA is that it uses security hooks to hook into the
> > VFS and then wants to read every file that gets opened on a real file
> > system to "measure" the contents vs a hash stashed away somewhere.
> 
> Well, but that's easy enough to handle: if the open isn't a read open,
> then the old contents don't matter, so you shouldn't bother to measure
> the file.
> 
> So this literally sounds like a "doctor, doctor, it hurts when I hit
> my head with a hammer" situation..

We need to differentiate between signed files, which by definition are
immutable, and those that are mutable.  Appending to a mutable file,
for example, would result in the file hash not being updated. 
Subsequent reads would fail.

Mimi


  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-16 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-13  8:01 [RESEND][PATCH] ima: Set and clear FMODE_CAN_READ in ima_calc_file_hash() Roberto Sassu
2020-11-13 15:53 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-11-14 11:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-16  8:52   ` Roberto Sassu
2020-11-16 16:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-16 16:46       ` Mimi Zohar
2020-11-16 17:37         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-16 17:41           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-16 18:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-16 18:35               ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2020-11-17 18:23                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-17 18:54                   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-11-17 23:23                   ` Mimi Zohar
2020-11-17 23:29                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-17 23:36                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-11-18 18:28                         ` Mimi Zohar
2020-11-20 12:52                         ` Roberto Sassu
2020-11-16 18:21             ` Mimi Zohar
2020-11-16 18:08           ` Al Viro
2020-11-16 18:49             ` Mimi Zohar
2020-11-17 12:29             ` Roberto Sassu

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