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From: "Durrant, Paul" <pdurrant@amazon.co.uk>
To: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@citrix.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>, Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"jandryuk@gmail.com" <jandryuk@gmail.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 4/6] libxl: allow creation of domains with a specified or random domid
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 09:37:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <402866798e2a40e192fd8052548374c5@EX13D32EUC003.ant.amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24096.44311.441643.264877@mariner.uk.xensource.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@citrix.com>
> Sent: 16 January 2020 19:36
> To: Durrant, Paul <pdurrant@amazon.co.uk>
> Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org; Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>; Anthony Perard
> <anthony.perard@citrix.com>; Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>;
> George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@citrix.com>; Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>;
> Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>; Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
> <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>; Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>;
> jandryuk@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/6] libxl: allow creation of domains with a
> specified or random domid
> 
> Hi.  This broadly contains what I expected, but:
> 
> Paul Durrant writes ("[PATCH v3 4/6] libxl: allow creation of domains with
> a specified or random domid"):
> 
> > +        for (;;) {
> > +            if (info->domid == RANDOM_DOMID) {
> > +                uint16_t v;
> > +
> > +                /* Randomize lower order bytes */
> > +                ret = libxl__random_bytes(gc, (void *)&v, sizeof(v));
> > +                if (ret < 0)
> > +                    break;
> > +
> > +                v &= DOMID_MASK;
> > +                if (!libxl_domid_valid_guest(v) ||
> > +                    libxl__is_retired_domid(gc, v))
> > +                    continue;
> > +
> > +                *domid = v;
> > +            }
> > +
> > +            ret = xc_domain_create(ctx->xch, domid, &create);
> > +            if (ret == 0 || errno != EEXIST || info->domid !=
> RANDOM_DOMID)
> > +                break;
> > +        }
> 
> I think this has a race.
> 
>   Thread A, in domain destroy           Thread B, in code above
> 
>                                          choose domid V
>                                          check V in recent domid list
> 
>      add V to recent domid list
>      destroy domain V in Xen
> 
>                                          create domain V in Xen
>                                          continue constructing V
> 
> Thread B improperly constructs a new guest using V, exposing anyone
> who was talking about V a moment ago to bugs.  Some code might even
> fail to spot the interval where V does not exist and carry on talking
> to the new V as if it were the old one...
> 
> I think there are only two possible solutions:
> 
>   - Check the domain's entry in the recent list *after* creating
>     the domain in Xen.  This involves accepting that we will
>     reuse the domid but only for a domain we are in the early
>     stages of constructing, so hopefully without bad consequence?
> 
>   - Take the recent domid lock.
> 

Or take a global file lock in libxl around domain creation and destruction?

> Also, it seems to me that we should check the recent domid list if we
> let Xen choose the domid.  Maybe that can be in a subsequent patch...
> 

Well, we could solve all this, remove the need for a file and all the associated complexity by simply keeping history inside the hypervisor. I don't know how the Xen maintainers will feel about that though, as Xen itself shouldn't have a problem with eager domid re-use.

  Paul

> Thanks,
> Ian.


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-17  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-16  9:35 [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 0/6] xl/libxl: domid allocation/preservation changes Paul Durrant
2020-01-16  9:35 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 1/6] libxl: add definition of INVALID_DOMID to the API Paul Durrant
2020-01-16  9:35 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 2/6] libxl_create: make 'soft reset' explicit Paul Durrant
2020-01-16  9:35 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 3/6] libxl: add infrastructure to track and query 'retired' domids Paul Durrant
2020-01-16 18:27   ` Ian Jackson
2020-01-17  9:26     ` Durrant, Paul
2020-01-17 11:31       ` Ian Jackson
2020-01-16  9:36 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 4/6] libxl: allow creation of domains with a specified or random domid Paul Durrant
2020-01-16  9:40   ` Jan Beulich
2020-01-16  9:46     ` Durrant, Paul
2020-01-16  9:59       ` Jan Beulich
2020-01-16 15:53   ` Jason Andryuk
2020-01-16 18:36   ` Ian Jackson
2020-01-17  9:37     ` Durrant, Paul [this message]
2020-01-17 11:35       ` Ian Jackson
2020-01-17 12:06         ` Durrant, Paul
2020-01-17 15:30           ` Ian Jackson
2020-01-20  8:18             ` Durrant, Paul
2020-01-16  9:36 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 5/6] xl.conf: introduce 'domid_policy' Paul Durrant
2020-01-16 18:37   ` Ian Jackson
2020-01-16  9:36 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 6/6] xl: allow domid to be preserved on save/restore or migrate Paul Durrant
2020-01-16 18:39   ` Ian Jackson
2020-01-16 18:43 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 0/6] xl/libxl: domid allocation/preservation changes Ian Jackson
2020-01-17  9:11   ` Durrant, Paul

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