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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-cachefs@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
Subject: Re: How capacious and well-indexed are ext4, xfs and btrfs directories?
Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 01:00:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4176733.1621987227@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00224B62-4903-4D33-A835-2DC8CC0E3B4D@dilger.ca>

Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca> wrote:

> > Any thoughts on how that might scale?  vfs_tmpfile() doesn't appear to
> > require the directory inode lock.  I presume the directory is required for
> > security purposes in addition to being a way to specify the target
> > filesystem.
> 
> I don't see how that would help much?

When it comes to dealing with a file I don't have cached, I can't probe the
cache file to find out whether it has data that I can read until I've opened
it (or found out it doesn't exist).  When it comes to writing to a new cache
file, I can't start writing until the file is created and opened - but this
will potentially hold up close, data sync and writes that conflict (and have
to implicitly sync).  If I can use vfs_tmpfile() to defer synchronous
directory accesses, that could be useful.

As mentioned, creating a link to a temporary cache file (ie. modifying the
directory) could be deferred to a background thread whilst allowing file I/O
to progress to the tmpfile.

David


      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-26  0:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-17 15:06 How capacious and well-indexed are ext4, xfs and btrfs directories? David Howells
2021-05-17 23:22 ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-17 23:40   ` Chris Mason
2021-05-19  8:00   ` Avi Kivity
2021-05-19 12:57     ` Dave Chinner
2021-05-19 14:13       ` Avi Kivity
2021-05-18  7:24 ` David Howells
2021-05-21  5:13 ` Andreas Dilger
2021-05-23  5:51   ` Josh Triplett
2021-05-25  4:21     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-25  5:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-05-25 21:13     ` Andreas Dilger
2021-05-25 21:26       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-05-25 22:13         ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-25 22:48         ` Andreas Dilger
2021-05-26  0:24       ` Chris Mason
2021-06-22  0:50       ` Josh Triplett
2021-05-25 22:31 ` David Howells
2021-05-25 22:58   ` Andreas Dilger
2021-05-26  0:00   ` David Howells [this message]

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