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[76.102.32.192]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c79sm1615835itc.13.2016.11.17.10.08.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:08:11 -0800 (PST) To: "Burton, Ross" , OE-core , openembedded-architecture References: From: Khem Raj Organization: himvis.com Message-ID: <4181f25d-a2bc-bb94-2b94-4d18ad654ab8@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:06:46 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/50.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Enabling uninative by default in oe-core? X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:08:14 -0000 X-Groupsio-MsgNum: 89540 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IVHmtg215F3jnkTm6xP3IKgAKanSbGvJP" --IVHmtg215F3jnkTm6xP3IKgAKanSbGvJP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="3ljX3IHs9EQq9ixxgCl7SEJmbCFMQ26wv"; protected-headers="v1" From: Khem Raj To: "Burton, Ross" , OE-core , openembedded-architecture Message-ID: <4181f25d-a2bc-bb94-2b94-4d18ad654ab8@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [OE-core] Enabling uninative by default in oe-core? References: In-Reply-To: --3ljX3IHs9EQq9ixxgCl7SEJmbCFMQ26wv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/17/16 9:31 AM, Burton, Ross wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Background: uninative is a class that downloads a precompiled host glib= c for > use in the sysroot, thus isolating the native sysroot from the host > environment. This means greater sstate reuse, as instead of native bui= lds > being dependent on the host system they're able to be shared between al= l > hosts. There is a reference tarball hosted on www.yoctoproject.org > , and the URL can be overridden by distros= if you > would prefer to build your own. >=20 > We enable this in Poky so that we get greater reuse on the autobuilders= , and > due to some issues with the C++ ABI the eSDK generation in master now r= equires > uninative to be enabled. The question is: do we now enable uninative b= y > default in oe-core's nodistro (pointing at the yoctoproject tarball), o= r do we > keep it disabled by default and require the user to enable uninative if= they > wish to build an eSDK? >=20 > Personally I'm torn: I don't like eSDK not working out of the box, but = I don't > really like oe-core nodistro depending on uninative. Though enabling > uninative globally does mean everything works out of the box, so follow= ing the > principle of Least Surprise that's what we should do. If we are supporing e-SDK in OE-Core then we should enable uninative too on the same lines. It does improve the user experience so I am in favor of adding it unconditionally. May be tarball can be hosted on oe mirrors as well for redundancy >=20 > Ross >=20 >=20 --3ljX3IHs9EQq9ixxgCl7SEJmbCFMQ26wv-- --IVHmtg215F3jnkTm6xP3IKgAKanSbGvJP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAlgt8boACgkQuwUzVZGdMxR43ACfZEiWwj3mskDJIcZcSjaKN7Je ktAAoIDYpdwyDx1Ij4Rk+m06bXr5rrP1 =zGsM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IVHmtg215F3jnkTm6xP3IKgAKanSbGvJP--