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From: Josh Boyer <jdub@us.ibm.com>
To: "Gareth Bult (Encryptec)" <Gareth@Encryptec.net>
Cc: Linux MTD <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: JFFS2 mount time
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:02:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41C3030D.8040607@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1103297611.15917.184.camel@squizzey.bult.co.uk>

Gareth Bult (Encryptec) wrote:>
> 
> Forgive my ignorance .. but what's the difference between using a write
> buffer and using the system buffer ?
> 
>>From my pov, the system buffer is there, already 100% reliable and
> somewhat larger than any [potential] write buffer ???

Perhaps alternative was the wrong word to use on my part.  I'll just 
wait until I see your code.  I'm probably confusing myself by making 
assumptions on what it's doing :).

> 
> Mmm, after looking at wbuf.c I'm none the wiser as to what it does or
> how it relates ..

It might not relate.  IIRC there were some discussions on buffering the 
writes done by JFFS[23] to the size of a sector on the block device so 
that partial writes aren't done unnecessarily.  This is what the wbuf.c 
file does.  NAND and ECC'd NOR require this because you can only write 
to a page once (usually) before an erase is needed to write again.

For disk devices I don't think it's required, but it could help.  Or 
maybe your code does this at the MTD level.  I dunno.  I could be 
spouting nonsense again ;).


> 
> 
> I think once I get this FL release out the way I'll have a a more
> in-depth look at JFFS*. It seems to be written almost exclusively for
> MTD devices .. which is great .. for MTD devices .. but for block
> devices and flash (USB for example) presented through a standard
> interface (SCSI for example) it seems there is scope for a much
> "thinner" filesystem generic devices with a subset of JFFS's feature
> set.

Yes, it is a Journaled _Flash_ File System.  So of course it's written 
for MTD devices.  Not sure why blkmtd.c was originally written.  Test 
vehicle for JFFS2, "why not", "I'm bored", etc.  Who knows? :)

josh

  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-17 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-15 23:19 JFFS2 mount time Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-16  0:15 ` Josh Boyer
2004-12-16  1:02   ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-16 12:53     ` Josh Boyer
2004-12-16 21:22       ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-16 21:28         ` Josh Boyer
2004-12-16 21:47           ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-17 12:54             ` Josh Boyer
2004-12-17 15:33               ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-17 16:02                 ` Josh Boyer [this message]
2004-12-17 16:46                   ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-17 17:08                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-12-17 17:10                     ` Josh Boyer
2004-12-17 17:26                       ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-17 17:35                         ` Josh Boyer
2004-12-17 18:09                           ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-17 19:14                             ` jasmine
2004-12-17 20:55                               ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-18 16:02                           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-20 16:34                             ` Josh Boyer
2004-12-20 17:12                               ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-21 13:09                                 ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:24                                   ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-21 13:34                                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 16:19             ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 17:32               ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-18 17:52                 ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 18:11                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-18 20:48                     ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-19  2:44                       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:30                       ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:39                         ` [PATCH 1/22] Add drivers/mtd/devices/blockmtd.c Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:41                           ` [PATCH 2/22] Add copyrights Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:42                             ` [PATCH 3/22] Remove read-only option Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:44                               ` [PATCH 4/22] Change init/exit functions Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:45                                 ` [PATCH 5/22] Remove gcc warnings Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:47                                   ` [PATCH 6/22] Remove debug macros Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:48                                     ` [PATCH 7/22] Lindent Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:49                                       ` [PATCH 8/22] Remove sync interface Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:51                                         ` [PATCH 9/22] Change parameter interface to phram-style Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:53                                           ` [PATCH 10/22] Cleanup macro usage Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:54                                             ` [PATCH 11/22] kfree simplifications Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:55                                               ` [PATCH 12/22] change blockmtd_sync Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:57                                                 ` [PATCH 13/22] remove erase regions Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 14:01                                                   ` [PATCH 14/22] Change add_device Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 14:02                                                     ` [PATCH 15/22] Rename unreadable mutex Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 14:03                                                       ` [PATCH 16/22] list changes Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 14:04                                                         ` [PATCH 17/22] Rename central struct Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 14:06                                                           ` [PATCH 18/22] Function renaming Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 14:09                                                             ` [PATCH 19/22] Fold various erase functions Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 14:10                                                               ` [PATCH 20/22] Fold various write functions Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 14:11                                                                 ` [PATCH 21/22] Default erase size Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 14:13                                                                   ` [PATCH 22/22] Readahead Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 18:42                                                   ` [PATCH 13/22] remove erase regions Christopher Hoover
2004-12-21 18:49                                                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 21:09                                                       ` Christopher Hoover
2004-12-22  2:47                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-12-22  8:59                                                           ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-22 10:05                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-12-22 10:41                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:42                           ` [PATCH 1/22] Add drivers/mtd/devices/blockmtd.c Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-21 14:15                             ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-21 13:40                         ` JFFS2 mount time Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-21 15:00                           ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]                             ` <1103644945.10792.175.camel@squizzey.bult.co.uk>
2004-12-21 16:04                               ` Jörn Engel
2004-12-16 13:43 ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-12-20 16:01   ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-20 16:09     ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-12-20 16:39       ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
2004-12-20 17:48       ` Gareth Bult (Encryptec)
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-20 14:26 Ferenc Havasi
2004-10-20 15:26 ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-10-20 15:49   ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-10-20 15:53     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-10-21  6:29 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-10-21  6:54   ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-10-21  7:16     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2004-10-21 19:50       ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-10-21 12:49 ` Jarkko Lavinen
2004-10-21 19:11   ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-10-22  9:58   ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-10-21 13:24 ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-21 20:05   ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-10-22 12:44     ` Artem Bityuckiy
2004-10-25  9:36       ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-10-25 10:56         ` Artem Bityuckiy
2004-10-25 15:30           ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-10-26  9:59             ` Artem Bityuckiy
2004-10-26 10:21               ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-10-26 11:05                 ` Artem Bityuckiy
2004-10-26 13:52                   ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-10-25 11:21         ` Artem Bityuckiy
2004-10-26  9:29       ` Jarkko Lavinen
2004-10-26 10:24         ` Ferenc Havasi
2004-10-26 10:34         ` Artem Bityuckiy
2004-01-13 12:50 Jarkko Lavinen (NMP/Helsinki)
2004-01-13 13:19 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2004-01-13 13:39 ` David Woodhouse
2004-01-13 15:25   ` Kenneth Johansson
2004-01-13 15:30     ` David Woodhouse
2004-01-13 16:21       ` Kenneth Johansson
2004-01-13 17:29         ` Jörn Engel
2004-01-13 17:40           ` Kenneth Johansson
2004-01-13 18:43             ` Jörn Engel
2005-01-04 15:00 ` Steven Scholz
2005-01-05 10:45   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-05 11:10     ` Ferenc Havasi
2005-01-05 11:24       ` Steven Scholz
2005-01-05 11:45         ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-01-06 10:50           ` Ferenc Havasi
2005-01-10 15:14           ` Steven Scholz
2005-01-10 15:25             ` Steven Scholz
2005-01-11  8:26             ` Ferenc Havasi
2005-01-11  8:34               ` Steven Scholz

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