From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261251AbVFDU7m (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:59:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261252AbVFDU7l (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:59:41 -0400 Received: from mail.dvmed.net ([216.237.124.58]:58050 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261251AbVFDU7i (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Jun 2005 16:59:38 -0400 Message-ID: <42A21635.70702@pobox.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:59:33 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050328 Fedora/1.7.6-1.2.5 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francois Romieu CC: Linux Kernel Subject: Re: 2.6.12? References: <42A0D88E.7070406@pobox.com> <20050603233756.GA27081@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com> <42A167FE.2020008@pobox.com> <20050604113316.GA3883@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com> In-Reply-To: <20050604113316.GA3883@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Francois Romieu wrote: > Jeff Garzik : > [...] > >>>Any chance the r8169 queue could be merged in mainline before ? >> >>I'll push the length check. > > > Cool. > > >>Everything else is a new feature. > > > Hmmmm... Ok, let's have some r8169 handwaving/advocacy/explanation to > tell what is going on. > > - From a usability viewpoint, the PCI ID for the USRobotics adapter > should be included. It has been reported around 10/04/2005. > Consider the usual july/LKS/conf period and it will not be available > in a stable serie before september (it is not a bugfix, it will not > be in 2.6.12.x either). USR has cut the price: it will have some > effect. > > - The new features are not really new: > o 03/2005 for Stephen Hemminger's stats + other changes > -> it does not collide with existing functions. > o 03/2005 for the message level support > -> not new but it will be noticed, yes. > > - Some of the usual suspects on netdev know the code and even if your > favorite r8169 maintainer has a real day job like everyone, I usually > manage to dig the issues when something hits the fan (no engagement in > sight, it helps :o) ). > > Of course, you are free to ignore these points if you already took them > into consideration. For Release Candidate I really want to keep things down to absolutely-required bug fixes, as 2.6.12 is apparently a week or so away. Standard pragmatism: anything else just introduces new possiblities for new bugs, and increases the time required to review each Release Candidate. Jeff