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From: "Marc-André Lureau" <mlureau@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: marcandre lureau <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	Claudio Fontana <claudio.fontana@huawei.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] ivshmem property size should be a size, not a string
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:20:57 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <430569618.12530858.1448043657890.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87si40sfzh.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>



----- Original Message -----
> Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On 11/20/2015 09:23 AM, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
> >> Hi
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> Everybody's favourite device model has "size" property.  It's declared
> >>> as *string*
> >>>
> >>>     DEFINE_PROP_STRING("size", IVShmemState, sizearg),
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> * In QMP, the size must be given as JSON string instead of JSON number,
> >>>   and size suffixes are accepted.  Example: "size": "512k" instead of
> >>>   "size": 524288.
> >>>
> >>>   Right now, this violation of QMP rules is tolerable (barely), because
> >>>   device_add breaks some of these rules already.  However, one goal of
> >>>   the current work on QAPI is to support a QMP command to plug devices
> >>>   that doesn't break QMP rules, and then this violation will stand out.
> >>>
> >>>   Therefore, I want it fixed now, before ivshmem gets used in anger.
> >
> > Was ivshmem even usable in 2.4?  I'd argue that if we are going to
> > change it, changing it for 2.5 is the ideal time.
> 
> Technically, we already have a compatibility break:
> 
> $ qemu-system-x86_64 -nodefaults -S -display none -chardev
> socket,path=/work/armbru/images/ivshmem-socket,id=ivshmem-chr -device
> ivshmem,size=4,chardev=ivshmem-chr,shm=foo
> 
> In 2.3.0, this ignores shm with warning "do not specify both 'chardev'
> and 'shm' with ivshmem".
> 
> In current upstream, it's rejected.

That's a regression, either we should:
- keep accepting it
- or keep rejection and remove the "WARNING:" 

Imho in this case, it was an undefined behaviour, warned, so it's fine to reject it now.

> I suspect we'd find more if we cared to look.
> 
> Of course, the only thing that *really* matters is *actual* usage in
> anger: something of value that breaks.
> 
> Hash ivshmem been used in anger?  If yes, how?
> 
> >>>   A straight fix of size isn't fully backwards compatible: suffixes no
> >>>   longer work in QMP, and you need to use an 'M' suffix to get Mebibytes
> >>>   on command line and HMP.
> >> 
> >> I don't know the rules to break properties in qemu, but I would
> >> prefer to avoid it if possible.
> >
> > It's possible to use an alternate to accept both a string and an
> > integer.  But in general, QMP _wants_ to use byte-count integers without
> > suffix (the convenience of '512k' is only for the command line and HMP),
> > so letting QMP expose a string of "512k" instead of an integer 524288
> > feels wrong.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> >>>   If that's unacceptable, we'll have to provide a new, fixed property,
> >>>   and deprecate size.
> >> 
> >> Sounds a better alternative to me.
> >
> > I'd rather fix the interface rather than catering to ugliness,
> > particularly since 2.5 already fixes so much else that was ugly about
> > ivshmem.
> >
> > Markus, did you have a patch to propose?
> 
> Working on one.
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-20 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-20 16:07 [Qemu-devel] ivshmem property size should be a size, not a string Markus Armbruster
2015-11-20 16:23 ` Marc-André Lureau
2015-11-20 16:46   ` Eric Blake
2015-11-20 18:06     ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-20 18:20       ` Marc-André Lureau [this message]
2015-11-20 19:39         ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-20 20:18           ` Marc-André Lureau
2015-11-23 10:19             ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-23 12:15               ` Marc-André Lureau
2015-11-23 13:25                 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-23 13:48                   ` Marc-André Lureau
2015-11-23 14:08                     ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-23 14:16                       ` Marc-André Lureau
2015-11-23 14:46                         ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-23 14:53                           ` Marc-André Lureau
2015-11-23 15:17                             ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-23 19:52                           ` Eric Blake
2015-11-23 20:19                             ` Marc-André Lureau
2015-11-24  9:56                               ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-24 12:23                                 ` Marc-André Lureau
2015-11-24 13:50                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-24 14:23                                     ` Marc-André Lureau
2015-11-24 15:12                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-23 18:22               ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-23 23:29             ` Andrew James
2015-11-24  9:52               ` Markus Armbruster
2015-11-23 20:57 ` Bruce Rogers

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