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[74.96.87.9]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id p10sm509947qkp.48.2021.07.07.21.56.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Jul 2021 21:56:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Anderson Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/28] cli: Add LIL shell To: Wolfgang Denk , Tom Rini Cc: u-boot@lists.denx.de, =?UTF-8?Q?Marek_Beh=c3=ban?= , Simon Glass , Roland Gaudig , Heinrich Schuchardt , Kostas Michalopoulos References: <20210701061611.957918-1-seanga2@gmail.com> <20210701061611.957918-3-seanga2@gmail.com> <126700.1625223815@gemini.denx.de> <8bbdb7a1-5085-a3b7-614f-12ae9aee8e8b@gmail.com> <18831.1625340810@gemini.denx.de> <20210705191058.GB9516@bill-the-cat> <192103.1625557460@gemini.denx.de> Message-ID: <43880bf0-baa6-0cb2-80fe-0fe50d43b42f@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 00:56:50 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <192103.1625557460@gemini.denx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: u-boot@lists.denx.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: U-Boot discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: u-boot-bounces@lists.denx.de Sender: "U-Boot" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.2 at phobos.denx.de X-Virus-Status: Clean On 7/6/21 3:44 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote: > Dear Tom, > > In message <20210705191058.GB9516@bill-the-cat> you wrote: >> This is I think the hard question. A draw of the current shell is that >> it it looks and acts like bash/sh/etc, for at least basic operations. >> That's something that's comfortable to a large audience. That has >> disadvantages when people want to start doing something complex. Sean >> has shown that several times and he's not the only one. LIL being >> tcl'ish is not. > > Tcl is a horror of a language for anything that is above trivial > level. Can you please elaborate on this? You've made this claim several times, but haven't explained your reasoning for it. --Sean