Matthias Andree wrote: >So was I. And now what? ipfwadm and ipchains should have been removed >from 2.6.0 if 2.6.0 was not to support these. That opportunity was >missed, the removal wasn't made up for in 2.6.1, so the stuff has to >stick until 2.8.0. > > I'm not aware of that policy... maybe I overlooked something? >This doesn't matter. A kernel that calls itself stable CAN NOT remove >features unless they had been critically broken from the beginning. And >this level of breakage is a moot point, so removal is not justified. > > >Who cares what you or I use? It's a commonly acknowledged policy that >"stable" releases do not remove features that are good enough for some. >Linux 2.6 is not "stable" in this regard. > > I guess our definitions of stable (and the degree of stability acceptable) differ. David