From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161024AbVLJTKg (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:10:36 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161027AbVLJTKf (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:10:35 -0500 Received: from c-67-177-35-222.hsd1.ut.comcast.net ([67.177.35.222]:57739 "EHLO vger.utah-nac.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161024AbVLJTKf (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:10:35 -0500 Message-ID: <439B2215.6090408@wolfmountaingroup.com> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:44:37 -0700 From: "Jeff V. Merkey" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040510 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan-Benedict Glaw Cc: Helge Hafting , rms@gnu.org, Coywolf Qi Hunt , luke-jr@utopios.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: GNU/Linux in a binary world... a doomsday scenario References: <21d7e9970512051610n1244467am12adc8373c1a4473@mail.gmail.com> <20051206040820.GB26602@kroah.com> <2cd57c900512052358m5b631204i@mail.gmail.com> <200512061856.42493.luke-jr@utopios.org> <2cd57c900512061742s28f57b5eu@mail.gmail.com> <20051210051628.E9E08CF4156@tsurukikun.utopios.org> <439A7E8E.8010707@wolfmountaingroup.com> <20051210164320.GB15986@aitel.hist.no> <20051210190537.GI13985@lug-owl.de> In-Reply-To: <20051210190537.GI13985@lug-owl.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: >On Sat, 2005-12-10 17:43:20 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: > > >>>GPL "religion" >>>have evolved, with the leaders living in orgnaizations that subsist from >>>handouts and >>>donations. This movement has spawned a global attitude that has no >>>respect >>>for IP rights, and it's extended itself to no respect for human rights, >>>or any other rights >>>of the indivdual. That's the legacy this has left and the ultimate >>>conclusion. >>> >>> >>Less respect for IP rights - possibly. Perhaps that's a good thing though, >>some of us thinks such rights are a bit overrated. >> >> > >_Less_ respect? I'm sorry, no. Once I started working on free >software, I really started having raising respect for what you call >Intellectual Property. ...and also recognizing some special words: > >"patented" -- product will be extraordinary expensive and probably not > any longer actively developed (like it would be if > there was real competition). >"special" -- product will use parts and materials that are hard to > obtain, hard to repair and probably expensive, too. > >"Intellectual Property" means to not do the very best for the >customers, but for the company. So if somebody fights for their IP to >be kept secret, that's just as good as writing "I'm selfish and only >want to get your money." > >Thanks. > >I try to share my IP to teaching people using free software, but also >doing some limited hardware soldering etc. Lots of fun, won't create >secret IP and will actually educate people to be creative instead of >consuming television... > >MfG, JBG > > > Two responses from people who live in socialist countries. Sure you agree, it's just status quo from your perspectives. Jeff