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From: Vitaly Wool <vwool@ru.mvista.com>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dpervushin@gmail.com,
	akpm@osdl.org, greg@kroah.com, basicmark@yahoo.com,
	komal_shah802003@yahoo.com, stephen@streetfiresound.com,
	spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net, Joachim_Jaeger@digi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI:  async message handing library update
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 01:10:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43AB243F.1000505@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200512220928.34457.david-b@pacbell.net>

David Brownell wrote:

>>>	if (!spi->max_speed_hz)
>>>		spi->max_speed_hz = 500 * 1000;
>>>
>>>	/* nsecs = max(50, (clock period)/2), be optimistic */
>>>	cs->nsecs = (1000000000/2) / (spi->max_speed_hz);
>>>	if (cs->nsecs < 50)
>>>		cs->nsecs = 50;
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Suggest not to hardcode values here.
>>    
>>
>
>I suppose it'd make sense to just fail if max_speed_hz is invalid,
>and if there's some board that an bitbang at over 10MHz we should
>avoid getting in its way.
>  
>
Well, why do this?

>>>			/* protocol tweaks before next transfer */
>>>			if (t->delay_usecs)
>>>				udelay(t->delay_usecs);
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Suggest nsecs here as well.
>>    
>>
>
>The relevant chip delays seem to be specified in usecs ... I don't
>like using nsecs for the clock timings, but without doing that it'd
>be impractical to define rates at the levels the hardware actually
>uses.  There are still some "nsec" leakages out of the real-bitbang
>code up to the next level, fixable over time.
>
>  
>
Ok.

> 
>  
>
>>>                               /* FIXME if bitbang->use_dma, dma_map_single()
>>>                                * before the transfer, and dma_unmap_single()
>>>                                * afterwards, for either or both buffers...
>>>                                */  
>>>      
>>>
>>please *please* *_please_*!!! don't do it! :)
>>Let the controller driver do it *only in case it's not working in PIO!*
>>    
>>
>
>OK.  That'd be more work for the controller driver, but you're
>right that a lot of the drivers using these utilities are rather
>likely to be PIO-oriented.  If they want DMA speedups, they can
>do the mappings themselves (in cases where the driver didn't
>do them already).
>  
>
Agreed :)

>
>  
>
>>Another one: I just feel comfortabel with using 'bitbang' term for the 
>>variety of SPI stuff which this library suits.
>>    
>>
>
>You _do_ feel comfortable with it?  I actually feel a bit odd, since
>only one of the three driver types is really bitbanging.  And in fact
>it still bothers me that the other two tie down a task, but that's
>the price for reusing common infrastructure.
>  
>
Oh sorry, of course I meant "I just don't feel comfortable..."

BTW: the message handling is one per-transfer basis for bitbang. But in 
this case it's not possible to imlement chained DMA transfers (2 
channels, one for Rx, one for Tx, basically that's your sample use case :)

Vitaly

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-22 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-12 15:20 [PATCH 2.6-git 0/4] SPI core refresh Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:22 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 1/4] SPI core refresh: SPI core patch Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:49   ` Russell King
2005-12-12 15:24 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 2/4] SPI core refresh: MTD dataflash driver Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:26 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 3/4] SPI core refresh: SPI/PNX controller Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 4/4] SPI core refresh: dumb EEPROM driver Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 18:01 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 0/4] SPI core refresh Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 12:09   ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-13 15:11     ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 17:06       ` dmitry pervushin
2005-12-14  6:57       ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 14:28         ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 16:35     ` David Brownell
2005-12-13 18:02       ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 14:06 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 16:53   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog " Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 19:01     ` David Brownell
2005-12-13 19:15       ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 13:50         ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 17:18           ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 17:53             ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 18:50               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:29                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:02               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:19                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:33                   ` [spi-devel-general] Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:34                 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15  6:47                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 16:44                   ` Greg KH
2005-12-15 22:23                     ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 23:02                       ` Greg KH
2005-12-16  8:37                         ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-16 17:34                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-16 18:32                             ` [spi-devel-general] Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-15 20:06                   ` David Brownell
2005-12-15 22:17                     ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 22:33                       ` Greg KH
2005-12-16  3:34                         ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-16  5:17                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 19:16               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Greg KH
2005-12-14 19:30                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 10:00               ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-14 17:22           ` David Brownell
2005-12-14 17:50             ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:17               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 20:11                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 21:47       ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 22:15       ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 16:55         ` David Brownell
2005-12-14 17:23           ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 18:48   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library " Stephen Street
2005-12-14 19:41     ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 21:19       ` Stephen Street
2005-12-14 19:31   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library David Brownell
2005-12-15 12:19   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: async message handing library update Vitaly Wool
2005-12-18 18:59     ` David Brownell
2005-12-19 15:40       ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-20  7:23         ` David Brownell
2005-12-20 18:02       ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-22 17:28         ` David Brownell
2005-12-22 22:10           ` Vitaly Wool [this message]
2005-12-22 23:55             ` David Brownell
2005-12-21 13:17       ` Vitaly Wool

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