From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from mail-ew0-f224.google.com ([209.85.219.224]:57457 "EHLO mail-ew0-f224.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751912AbZEDSdS convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 May 2009 14:33:18 -0400 Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so4224329ewy.37 for ; Mon, 04 May 2009 11:33:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49FF3453.7020802@gmail.com> References: <1241452330.8683.49.camel@johannes.local> <49FF2AE5.6040104@gmail.com> <1241460130.8683.85.camel@johannes.local> <49FF2FE8.8010004@gmail.com> <1241460944.8683.92.camel@johannes.local> <49FF3453.7020802@gmail.com> From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:33:01 -0700 Message-ID: <43e72e890905041133h1da905a5k1145496d7fdfbfa3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH] mac80211: report operating frequency rather than current To: Richard Farina Cc: Johannes Berg , John Linville , linux-wireless Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Richard Farina wro= te: > Johannes Berg wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:11 -0400, Richard Farina wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Yes, and at what point does it seem like a good idea to hide the ch= annel >>> the wifi card is on? =C2=A0If I set channel 11 and it is scanning i= nstead of >>> locked on channel 11 then I should see the current channel the hard= ware is >>> on. =C2=A0This seems like an aweful idea to me, granted, it may hel= p a few people >>> that don't understand how scanning works, but hiding the truth is n= ever a >>> good idea. NACK. >>> >> >> It's not really about hiding the truth. Besides, many many devices a= re >> _already_ "hiding the truth" (to use your words) because they do >> scanning in firmware and you never know what channel they're on (e.g= =2E >> all Intel wireless hardware). >> >> I think it's completely pointless for us to reply to the question "w= hat >> channel am I on" with the answer "currently the receiver is tuned to >> 132", when we can say "you're associated to a network on channel 11"= =2E >> >> > > And if the card claims to be associated but ends up stuck on another > channel? =C2=A0I can't see a good reason for this at all but if no on= e agrees > with me then it is well without your power to simply overrule me. > > I think it is an awful idea, and intel being broken isn't an excuse t= o break > everything else. =C2=A0If the card isn't on the right channel because= of some > random failure this patch ensures there is no way to troubleshoot. =C2= =A0If you > want to display current channel that is the hardware channel, if you = want to > display "Channel the AP I'm associated to is on" then call it somethi= ng > other than "Current Channel" > > My 0.02. Why not show both through iw and for wext just use whatever wext did for most devices? Luis -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-wireles= s" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html