From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422702AbWG2Igb (ORCPT ); Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:36:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1422703AbWG2Igb (ORCPT ); Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:36:31 -0400 Received: from thebsh.namesys.com ([212.16.7.65]:19688 "HELO thebsh.namesys.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1422702AbWG2Iga (ORCPT ); Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:36:30 -0400 Message-ID: <44CABB87.3050509@namesys.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:36:07 -0600 From: Hans Reiser User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060417 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Masover CC: Linus Torvalds , "Horst H. von Brand" , Jeff Garzik , Andrew Morton , Theodore Tso , LKML , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: metadata plugins (was Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion) References: <200607281402.k6SE245v004715@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> <44CA31D2.70203@slaphack.com> <44C9FB93.9040201@namesys.com> <44CA6905.4050002@slaphack.com> <44CA126C.7050403@namesys.com> <44CA8771.1040708@slaphack.com> In-Reply-To: <44CA8771.1040708@slaphack.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org David Masover wrote: > > If indeed it can be changed easily at all. I think the burden is on > you to prove that you can change it to be more generic, rather than > saying "Well, we could do it later, if people want us to..." None of the filesystems other than reiser4 have any interest in using plugins, and this whole argument over how it should be in VFS is nonsensical because nobody but us has any interest in using the functionality. The burden is on the generic code authors to prove that they will ever ever do anything at all besides complain. Frankly, I don't think they will. I think they will never produce one line of code. Please cite one ext3 developer who is signed up to implement ext3 using plugins if they are supported by VFS. > >> . It also prevents users from getting >> advances they could be getting today, for no reason. > > > It prevents users from doing nothing. Most users not only cannot patch a kernel, they don't know what a patch is. It most certainly does. Hans