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From: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>
To: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	"Ranjani Sridharan" <ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com>,
	<alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Cc: upstream@semihalf.com, harshapriya.n@intel.com, rad@semihalf.com,
	tiwai@suse.com, hdegoede@redhat.com, broonie@kernel.org,
	amadeuszx.slawinski@linux.intel.com, cujomalainey@chromium.org,
	lma@semihalf.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 11/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Firmware resources management utilities
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 18:23:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <457ddf2c-c0fd-bd26-d1e4-436748150712@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <269ceef4-2d86-8d52-6946-c69859e970c0@linux.intel.com>

On 2022-03-08 8:42 PM, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> On 3/8/22 12:31, Cezary Rojewski wrote:

...

>> Yes, avs-driver embraces granular sound card approach as opposed to 
>> super card approach. There is one topology file per sound card.
>>
>> That subject is not part of this patchset though.
> 
> You would still need to clarify how the same set of modules might be 
> accessed or configured when different cards are created, or if there is 
> a 'clean' split with a 1:1 mapping between module and cards.
> 
> The more I think of this the less practical this 'granular' approach 
> looks, e.g. if you want to route the same stream to different interfaces 
> handled by different cards. An example is playing a notification on 
> local speakers controlled by HDaudio and a Bluetooth headset using I2S. 
> This could be really fun to represent even basic volume control to 
> users: controls are card-specific and some parts may be handled in 
> different cards and thus different UCM files.
> 
> I really think the best split of a DSP topology is between orthogonal 
> parts. When muxers/demux are used, or multi-input modules such as AEC, 
> the routing complexity outweighs the benefits of a simpler card design.

There is a clean split - for all the typical scenarios, topology tied to 
given sound card defines the stream patterns completely.

Even when considering "functional" split as you mention in third 
paragraph, multiple sound cards are still there. So, as I have described 
earlier, to prevent any unwanted behaviour, cached module information in 
form of ->mods_info, is being locked with help of a mutex. We do not 
duplicate such information per sound card as that would be a waste of 
memory. No matter how many libraries are mentioned by the topology files 
and loaded throughout the lifetime of a driver, there is always just one 
base firmware we sent MODULE_INFO to.

In regard to advanced scenarios and more complex routing, it would be 
good to have that conversation as a part of dedicated patchset which is 
going to follow this one (sooner or later).


Regards,
Czarek

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-09 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-04 14:57 [PATCH v3 00/17] ASoC: Intel: AVS - Audio DSP for cAVS Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 01/17] ALSA: hda: Add helper macros for DSP capable devices Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 02/17] ASoC: Export DAI register and widget ctor and dctor functions Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 03/17] ASoC: Intel: Introduce AVS driver Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 15:51   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-04 16:43     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 04/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Inter process communication Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 16:09   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-04 17:11     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-07 16:15       ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-07 16:23         ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 05/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Add code loading requests Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 06/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Add pipeline management requests Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 16:13   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-04 17:15     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 07/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Add module " Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 16:21   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-04 17:21     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-07 16:39       ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-07 16:58         ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-07 17:05           ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-07 17:27             ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-07 17:47               ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 08/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Add power " Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 16:24   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-04 17:30     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 09/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Add ROM requests Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 16:26   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-04 17:33     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 10/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Add basefw runtime-parameter requests Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 16:31   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-04 17:37     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-07 16:41       ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-07 17:02         ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-07 17:06           ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-07 17:28             ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 11/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Firmware resources management utilities Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 16:41   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-04 18:02     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-07 16:46       ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-07 17:13         ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-07 17:30           ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-08 16:57             ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-08 17:22               ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-08 18:07                 ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-08 18:26                   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-08 18:31                     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-08 19:42                       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2022-03-09 17:23                         ` Cezary Rojewski [this message]
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 12/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Declare module configuration types Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 16:43   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-04 18:10     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 13/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Dynamic firmware resources management Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 16:47   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-04 18:15     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 14/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: General code loading flow Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 16:54   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-04 18:29     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 15/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Implement CLDMA transfer Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 16/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Code loading over CLDMA Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 14:57 ` [PATCH v3 17/17] ASoC: Intel: avs: Code loading over HDA Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 16:59   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2022-03-04 18:44     ` Cezary Rojewski
2022-03-04 18:56       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2022-03-07 14:31         ` Cezary Rojewski

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