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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: "Robert Hancock" <hancockr@shaw.ca>,
	"Björn Steinbrink" <B.Steinbrink@gmx.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, htejun@gmail.com
Subject: Re: SATA exceptions with 2.6.20-rc5
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:51:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45AC2F99.3040209@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070116002336.GB4067@kernel.dk>

Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 15 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> I'd be surprised if the device would not obey the 7 second timeout rule
>>> that seems to be set in stone and not allow more dirty in-drive cache
>>> than it could flush out in approximately that time.
>> AFAIK Windows flush-cache timeout is 30 seconds, not 7 as with other 
>> commands...
> 
> Ok, 7 seconds for FLUSH_CACHE would have been nice for us too though, as
> it would pretty much guarentee lower latencies for random writes and
> write back caching. The concern is the barrier code, of course. I guess
> I should do some timings on potential worst case patterns some day. Alan
> may have done that sometime in the past, iirc.

FWIW:  According to the drive guys (Eric M, among others), FLUSH CACHE 
will "probably" be under 30 seconds, but pathological cases might even 
extend beyond that.

Definitely more than 7 seconds in less-than-pathological cases, 
unfortunately...

The SCSI layer /should/ already take this (30 second timeout) into 
account, for SYNCHRONIZE CACHE (and thus FLUSH CACHE for libata) but I'm 
too slack to check at the moment.

	Jeff




  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-01-16  1:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2007-01-14 23:43 ` SATA exceptions with 2.6.20-rc5 Robert Hancock
2007-01-15  0:22   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-15  0:34     ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-15  2:47       ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-15  2:25     ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-15  2:53       ` Jens Axboe
2007-01-15 13:42         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-16  0:23           ` Jens Axboe
2007-01-16  0:36             ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-16  1:51               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-16  1:51             ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-01-22 18:17               ` Eric D. Mudama
2007-01-15 21:17   ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-15 23:46     ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-16  0:34       ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-16  1:35         ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-16  3:00           ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-16  1:53         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-19 15:05           ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-19 19:51             ` chunkeey
2007-01-20  2:41             ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-20  2:47               ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-20  4:15               ` Björn Steinbrink
     [not found]               ` <20070120072755.GA4652@atjola.homenet>
2007-01-20  7:50                 ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-20 18:50               ` Chr
2007-01-20 22:32               ` Chr
2007-01-21  1:50                 ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-21  3:34                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-21  4:54                     ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-21  6:39                       ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-21  8:36                         ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-21 17:34                           ` Chr
2007-01-21 18:01                             ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-21 20:13                               ` Chr
2007-01-22  2:39                                 ` Tejun Heo
2007-01-22 12:32                                   ` Chr
2007-01-21 18:40                           ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-21 19:58                             ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-21 22:08                               ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-21 22:11                                 ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-21 22:26                                   ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-21 22:27                               ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-22  0:17                                 ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-22 16:12                                   ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-22 16:57                                     ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-22 17:53                                       ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-19 14:53         ` Alistair John Strachan
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     [not found]         ` <fa.rI60BGlFbSyfLyumqmgiOfDqCI4@ifi.uio.no>
2007-01-23 23:18           ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-24  0:39             ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-02-03  1:42               ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-02-03  5:48                 ` Robert Hancock
2007-02-04  1:13                   ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-02-09 12:03                     ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-24  8:24             ` Ian Kumlien
2007-01-24 14:41               ` Björn Steinbrink
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2007-01-23  1:24           ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-23  1:34             ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-23  1:41               ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-23 15:29                 ` Larry Walton
2007-01-23  2:44             ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-23  5:03               ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-20 15:03 Ian Kumlien
2007-01-20 19:59 ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-20 21:43   ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-01-20 22:11     ` Ian Kumlien
     [not found] <fa.U/G88R1fWKOeQK3EBPHKK4MeRsQ@ifi.uio.no>
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     [not found]   ` <fa.hMhdefkReYJ4idUyqqEWJFnWUBE@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]     ` <fa.8TPWeOrcwkkHutPX5NOcJsTBO8Y@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]       ` <fa.b92BqwV090pDj7q0iBG6BChksbI@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]         ` <fa.O3RzvckSjB73Y0uL8P1nTXDRd6U@ifi.uio.no>
2007-01-19  0:09           ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-19  0:52             ` Björn Steinbrink
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-14 22:44 Björn Steinbrink
2007-01-15  6:48 ` Mikael Pettersson
2007-01-15 13:43   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-01-15 13:47   ` Björn Steinbrink

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