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From: "Lenar Lõhmus" <lenar@vision.ee>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: -mm merge plans for 2.6.21
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:59:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45CC703F.9090302@vision.ee> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070209021242.03ba88d8.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:54:29 +0200 Lenar Lõhmus <lenar@vision.ee> wrote:
> Has it?  I don't think I've ever observed any benefits from it and I don't
> think anyone has ever got down and worked out what its drawbacks might be,
> and seen if they can be demonstrated in practice.
>   
Who should get down? It seems no serious kernel developer cares enough
to get to it. It's just a desktop feature you know - no big iron - 
uninteresting.
>> Why keep it in -mm for so long?
>>     
>
> I'm waiting to be shown that its benefits exceed its costs.  Sometimes
> that's hard.
>   
Swap prefetch and those mystic _costs_. But nobody
hasn't communicated loud and clear what those costs are. I imagine
it must be really hard to fight to something you don't even exists.
Or prove that you are better than somebody you have never seen or heard of.

Please somebody qualified, take the time, dig that code, and show us 
those costs.
With details. So Con can make the code even better and included in 
mainline or
drop altogether if it's really bad and move on to other endeavours.

With best,
Lenar


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-02-09 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-08 23:07 -mm merge plans for 2.6.21 Andrew Morton
2007-02-08 23:12 ` Roland Dreier
2007-02-08 23:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-02-08 23:44   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09 15:02     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-02-09 10:57   ` Frederik Deweerdt
2007-02-09 11:24     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-09 11:39       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09 12:32         ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-02-09 14:05           ` deweerdt
2007-02-09 13:04         ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-09 12:27           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-02-10 11:42       ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-10 14:19         ` Frederik Deweerdt
2007-02-08 23:34 ` Kyle McMartin
2007-02-08 23:53   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09  0:55     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-02-09  1:00       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09  5:32 ` Bharata B Rao
2007-02-09  8:26   ` Sébastien Dugué
2007-02-09  9:05     ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09 10:10       ` Sébastien Dugué
2007-02-09  9:54 ` Lenar Lõhmus
2007-02-09 10:12   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09 12:48     ` James
2007-02-09 12:59     ` Lenar Lõhmus [this message]
2007-02-09 17:35 ` David Woodhouse
2007-02-09 21:45   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09 21:49     ` Russell King
2007-02-09 21:53       ` David Woodhouse
2007-02-09 22:03         ` Russell King
2007-02-09 22:12           ` David Woodhouse
2007-02-09 22:42             ` David Woodhouse
2007-02-10  2:05           ` Oleg Verych
2007-02-09 22:00       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-09 22:06         ` Russell King
2007-02-09 21:59     ` David Woodhouse
2007-02-09 22:50       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-10 10:22         ` Heiko Carstens
2007-02-10 10:32           ` David Woodhouse
2007-02-10 21:34             ` Ralf Baechle
2007-02-11  4:53               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-11 15:33               ` David Woodhouse
2007-02-11 16:09                 ` Ralf Baechle
2007-02-11 16:14               ` Heiko Carstens
2007-02-11 16:34                 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-02-11 18:01                 ` Ralf Baechle
2007-02-10 21:05           ` Ralf Baechle
2007-02-11 10:37             ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-10 13:03   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-09 19:37 ` Alan
2007-02-09 21:51   ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-10  1:15     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2007-02-10  1:29       ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-10 13:06   ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-10 13:48     ` Alan
2007-02-10 14:43       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-12 20:56     ` Doug Thompson
2007-02-12 21:46       ` Andi Kleen
2007-02-12 22:45         ` Doug Thompson
2007-02-09 22:18 ` Guillaume Chazarain
2007-02-10  9:58 ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.21 -- md-dm-reduce-stack-usage-with-stacked-block-devices.patch Heiko Carstens
2007-02-10 22:35   ` Alasdair G Kergon
2007-02-10 22:35     ` Alasdair G Kergon
2007-02-11  0:31 ` -mm merge plans for 2.6.21 Dave Jones
2007-02-09  2:57 Parag Warudkar
2007-02-09  3:05 ` Andrew Morton
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2007-02-10 17:04         ` Robert Hancock
2007-01-12 23:19           ` Frederik Deweerdt

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