From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759079AbYBGNbo (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:31:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754702AbYBGNbg (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:31:36 -0500 Received: from hawking.rebel.net.au ([203.20.69.83]:34818 "EHLO hawking.rebel.net.au" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754473AbYBGNbf (ORCPT ); Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:31:35 -0500 Message-ID: <47AB0834.7000201@davidnewall.com> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:01:32 +1030 From: David Newall User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pekka Enberg CC: Christer Weinigel , Marcel Holtmann , Greg KH , linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] USB: mark USB drivers as being GPL only References: <20080125180232.GA4613@kroah.com> <20080202123710.42df1aa0@weinigel.se> <20080202191930.GA19826@kroah.com> <47A5D9CD.5070001@davidnewall.com> <84144f020802030743j1278ac64j2ee3e2cbc5c3fefc@mail.gmail.com> <47A5E67D.9040804@davidnewall.com> <1202058820.15090.60.camel@violet> <84144f020802050346h2c26aac4v9841dd5bc98931a0@mail.gmail.com> <20080206221254.5780a862@weinigel.se> <84144f020802062222s78533aa6qe352d5fe7b622e20@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <84144f020802062222s78533aa6qe352d5fe7b622e20@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Pekka Enberg wrote: > I have simply stated that (1) the problem boils down to what is > derived work and what is no and (2) the developers use the > EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL as a hint of what they think to be derived work (not > necessarily tested in court). The _logical conclusion_ of these two > simple facts is, of course, to _not use_ functions marked as > EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL unless you're willing to test your belief in court. > > Now I see you really want to argue about this but could you please do > it on some other list than the LKML? We use this list for real work > too, you know, and right now you're only contributing noise. Thanks! This *is* real work. You have blinded yourself to the fact that this discussion is preliminary to a proposed change. Or put another way, if you want to kill the discussion then the answer to "shall we" is "no."