From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B9EC433F5 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S241256AbhK3MIQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Nov 2021 07:08:16 -0500 Received: from sin.source.kernel.org ([145.40.73.55]:34340 "EHLO sin.source.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S241212AbhK3MIO (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Nov 2021 07:08:14 -0500 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sin.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BF64CE18FE; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 66BB0C53FC7; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:04:51 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1638273891; bh=XZV+A03r+U14NNevxoQ+VNb6roKLqHnitP/KB5VE1bU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ZlVLLcdQtjmMpvoqZ3crREGG4Tx9/cX7mlIGiOZd6h9BzUwUxvGRirVIKaUOaxjYT j5gtsnHmy3Pom8gpoKBLdTa9+zq0ksimfkkU+GFV8UpMhBa78nezSi2q5jNEQwAhWJ xq4G0RHYn2hCaCVVjpP6TiYxrQmuhlZ9TN3UAYwPmlw/EHu8tPf53sycoGgXFr8+3e p50fi7NH3GxciImqpxsMc5nV7QmRHXLcBYfxtqsN348RGG9ktb9N6rfUlFESziCNeM iyjgvu0+fxThDkF7ypznoZv3ZG7ohR4/74jaqNLB+4LCg4pB1MEHTAlZtTjNGF/jPM yrr//SJISMS0w== Received: from disco-boy.misterjones.org ([51.254.78.96] helo=www.loen.fr) by disco-boy.misterjones.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ms1sP-008rkT-FI; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:04:49 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:04:49 +0000 From: Marc Zyngier To: Paolo Bonzini Cc: Sean Christopherson , Huacai Chen , Aleksandar Markovic , Paul Mackerras , Anup Patel , Paul Walmsley , Palmer Dabbelt , Albert Ou , Christian Borntraeger , Janosch Frank , James Morse , Alexandru Elisei , Suzuki K Poulose , Atish Patra , David Hildenbrand , Cornelia Huck , Claudio Imbrenda , Vitaly Kuznetsov , Wanpeng Li , Jim Mattson , Joerg Roedel , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, kvm-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Matlack , Oliver Upton , Jing Zhang Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/43] KVM: arm64: Move vGIC v4 handling for WFI out arch callback hook In-Reply-To: <3490c50e-50d2-f906-3383-b87e14b14fab@redhat.com> References: <20211009021236.4122790-1-seanjc@google.com> <20211009021236.4122790-11-seanjc@google.com> <9236e715-c471-e1c8-6117-6f37b908a6bd@redhat.com> <875ytjbxpq.wl-maz@kernel.org> <3490c50e-50d2-f906-3383-b87e14b14fab@redhat.com> User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.4.11 Message-ID: <4826a7e2dbecc5d57323d18d725d6d69@kernel.org> X-Sender: maz@kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 51.254.78.96 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: pbonzini@redhat.com, seanjc@google.com, chenhuacai@kernel.org, aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com, paulus@ozlabs.org, anup.patel@wdc.com, paul.walmsley@sifive.com, palmer@dabbelt.com, aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, borntraeger@de.ibm.com, frankja@linux.ibm.com, james.morse@arm.com, alexandru.elisei@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com, atish.patra@wdc.com, david@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com, imbrenda@linux.ibm.com, vkuznets@redhat.com, wanpengli@tencent.com, jmattson@google.com, joro@8bytes.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, kvm-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dmatlack@google.com, oupton@google.com, jingzhangos@google.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: maz@kernel.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on disco-boy.misterjones.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2021-11-30 11:39, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 10/26/21 18:12, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >> On 26/10/21 17:41, Marc Zyngier wrote: >>>> This needs a word on why kvm_psci_vcpu_suspend does not need the >>>> hooks.  Or it needs to be changed to also use kvm_vcpu_wfi in the >>>> PSCI >>>> code, I don't know. >>>> >>>> Marc, can you review and/or advise? >>> I was looking at that over the weekend, and that's a pre-existing >>> bug. I would have addressed it independently, but it looks like you >>> already have queued the patch. >> >> I have "queued" it, but that's just my queue - it's not on kernel.org >> and it's not going to be in 5.16, at least not in the first batch. >> >> There's plenty of time for me to rebase on top of a fix, if you want >> to send the fix through your kvm-arm pull request.  Just Cc me so that >> I understand what's going on. > > Since a month has passed and I didn't see anything related in the > KVM-ARM pull requests, I am going to queue this patch. Any conflicts > can be resolved through a kvmarm->kvm merge of either a topic branch > or a tag that is destined to 5.16. Can you at least spell out *when* this will land? There is, in general, a certain lack of clarity about what you are queuing, where you are queuing it, and what release it targets. Thanks, M. -- Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny... 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