From: "Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@nortel.com>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, clock@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
aviro@redhat.com
Subject: Re: writing file to disk: not as easy as it looks
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:22:58 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49356EF2.7060806@nortel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081202163720.GB18162@mit.edu>
Theodore Tso wrote:
> Even for ext3/ext4 which is doing physical journalling, it's still the
> case that the journal commits first, and it's only later when the
> write happens that we write out the change. If the disk fails some of
> the writes, it's possible to lose data, especially if the two blocks
> involved in the node split are far apart, and the write to the
> existing old btree block fails.
Yikes. I was under the impression that once the journal hit the platter
then the data were safe (barring media corruption).
It seems like the more I learn about filesystems, the more failure modes
there are and the fewer guarantees can be made. It's amazing that
things work as well as they do...
Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-02 17:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-02 9:40 writing file to disk: not as easy as it looks Pavel Machek
2008-12-02 14:04 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-02 15:26 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-02 16:37 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-02 17:22 ` Chris Friesen [this message]
2008-12-02 20:55 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-02 22:44 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-02 22:50 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-03 5:07 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-03 8:46 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-03 15:50 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-12-03 15:54 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-03 17:37 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-12-03 17:52 ` Alan Cox
2008-12-03 18:16 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-03 18:33 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-12-03 16:42 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-03 17:43 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-12-03 18:26 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-03 15:34 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-12-15 10:24 ` [patch] " Pavel Machek
2008-12-15 11:03 ` Pavel Machek
2008-12-15 20:08 ` Folkert van Heusden
2008-12-02 19:10 ` Folkert van Heusden
2008-12-02 23:01 ` Mikulas Patocka
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