From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christian Stroetmann OntoLab Subject: Re: reiser4 inclusion? Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:15:11 +0200 Message-ID: <49F2560F.1000002@ontolab.com> References: <49EB1E3F.1020905@gmail.com> <542E227E-E31D-496C-93FB-19393133297F@MailNewsRSS.com> <200904250153.33258.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <2E9381E6-A09A-4330-9A61-C4B7D7CE0E71@MailNewsRSS.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <2E9381E6-A09A-4330-9A61-C4B7D7CE0E71@MailNewsRSS.com> Sender: reiserfs-devel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle , reiserfs-devel Jason, > Volker, > >>> First, please following mailing list etiquette and don't top post >> >> it is pretty much his mailing list. > > Just because he is the "maintainer". > > Am I wrong, but the community owns the code, not Edward. I have had the same impression in the past, but now I have learned something new. > > I mean, I could host a reiser list on my mail server. I can do it too ;) > >>> Third, if the community only relied on you to progress reiserfs, it >>> has been years at this point and nothing significant. it is basically >>> somewhat dead. >> >> reiserfs is in maintenance mode - there aren't much changes. In >> fact, less >> changes is a good thing. > > maintenance mode = stagnant, no? > >> Edward is also pretty much the last person working on reiser4. You are >> attacking him, but I don't see patches from you. Gives someone >> something to >> think about. > > Right because he has slammed heads with everyone that was willing to > help him. I was willing and when I tried talking with him he blew me > off. So I forked. OntoLab too. Yes, that's exactly the point. > > Edward has lost the meaning of an open source community effort. It > isn't a one man show and it isn't blowing people off and it isn't > refusing to accept involvement and it isn't only accepting the help > you *want* versus what someone *offers* Yes, that's exactly the point again. > >> look at the archives. Edward has good reasons to feel ripped of. >> Maybe it is all a big miscommunication. But that isn't solved when >> ontolabs >> guys agressively advertise for themselves. > > But what else is there when a snails pace is being achieved otherwise? > > Please realize that my tone is that of trying to band together and not > break apart. I want to see progress, I am willing to put in my time > and energy, but there is no path or goals or anything....what is one > supposed to think or do? > > I think that it is time to get back in the game. Yes, we can :) > > -Jason > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe > reiserfs-devel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Best wishes Christian *<:o)