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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Cam Macdonell <cam@cs.ualberta.ca>, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Shared memory device with interrupt support
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 07:31:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A123639.9000901@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A11AECB.70908@codemonkey.ws>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
> I'd strongly recommend working these patches on qemu-devel and lkml.  
> I suspect Avi may disagree with me, but in order for this to be 
> eventually merged in either place, you're going to have additional 
> requirements put on you.

I don't disagree with the fact that there will be additional 
requirements, but I might disagree with some of those additional 
requirements themselves.  In particular I think your proposal was 
unimplementable; I would like to see how how you can address my concerns.

I don't think bulk memory sharing and the current transactional virtio 
mechanisms are a good fit for each other; but if we were to add a 
BAR-like capability to virtio that would address the compatibility 
requirement (though it might be difficult to implement on s390 with its 
requirement on contiguous host virtual address space).

A model which does fit the current virtio capabilities is that of a DMA 
engine - guest A specifies an sglist to copy; guest B specifies an 
sglist to receive the copy; the host does the copy, using a real DMA 
engine if available.  Note A == B is a possibility, and is a way to 
expose a DMA engine to a single guest for its own use in moving memory 
around.

I think both models could prove useful.

> If it goes in via qemu-kvm.git, there's a possibility that you'll be 
> forced into an ABI break down the road (consider the old hypercall and 
> balloon drivers).

I agree this is best merged upstream first.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-19  4:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-07 16:16 [PATCH v2] Shared memory device with interrupt support Cam Macdonell
2009-05-16  2:45 ` Kumar, Venkat
2009-05-16  3:27   ` Cam Macdonell
2009-05-17 21:39     ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-18 18:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-19  4:31   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-05-19 18:31     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-20  9:01       ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-20 13:45         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-20 14:26           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found] <3D9CB4061D1EB3408D4A0B910433453C030BCA8892@inbmail01.lsi.com>
2009-05-16  3:30 ` Cam Macdonell
2009-05-17 21:51   ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-18 11:12     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-05-18 11:38       ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-18 16:50     ` Cam Macdonell
2009-05-18 17:19       ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-18 12:11   ` Kumar, Venkat
2009-05-18 16:20     ` Cam Macdonell
2009-05-19  3:52       ` Kumar, Venkat
2009-05-19 11:20         ` Jayaraman, Bhaskar
2009-05-19 11:35           ` Gregory Haskins

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