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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: kirkland@canonical.com
Cc: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>,
	Scott Tsai <scottt.tw@gmail.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	jdstrand@canonical.com,
	Marc Deslauriers <marc.deslauriers@canonical.com>,
	kees.cook@canonical.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] whitelist host virtio networking features [was Re: qemu-kvm-0.11 regression, crashes on older ...]
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:50:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AEF461A.4020407@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1257189955.3512.236.camel@x200>

Dustin Kirkland wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 12:55 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>> They can exit qemu via an ACPI shutdown.  I don't see the difference.
>>     
>
> An ACPI shutdown is triggered by an authenticated user inside of the
> guest.
>
> The present exit is triggered by any other anonymous user on the
> network, with the ability to send a lot of packets very quickly to the
> VM guest.  The guest isn't able to handle this properly (and rightly
> that guest's kernel should be fixed).  But I do see a difference.
>   

Well the problem is triggered by the guest kernel writing garbage to 
virtio-net's backend.  That's why we're suggesting it's really a guest 
kernel issue.

If the guest kernel writes something bad to qemu, we're may kill the 
guest.  That's not a qemu bug, it's the designed behavior.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> :-Dustin
>   


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: kirkland@canonical.com
Cc: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>,
	Scott Tsai <scottt.tw@gmail.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	jdstrand@canonical.com,
	Marc Deslauriers <marc.deslauriers@canonical.com>,
	kees.cook@canonical.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] whitelist host virtio networking features [was Re: qemu-kvm-0.11 regression, crashes on older ...]
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:50:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AEF461A.4020407@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1257189955.3512.236.camel@x200>

Dustin Kirkland wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 12:55 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>> They can exit qemu via an ACPI shutdown.  I don't see the difference.
>>     
>
> An ACPI shutdown is triggered by an authenticated user inside of the
> guest.
>
> The present exit is triggered by any other anonymous user on the
> network, with the ability to send a lot of packets very quickly to the
> VM guest.  The guest isn't able to handle this properly (and rightly
> that guest's kernel should be fixed).  But I do see a difference.
>   

Well the problem is triggered by the guest kernel writing garbage to 
virtio-net's backend.  That's why we're suggesting it's really a guest 
kernel issue.

If the guest kernel writes something bad to qemu, we're may kill the 
guest.  That's not a qemu bug, it's the designed behavior.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> :-Dustin
>   

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-02 20:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-28 19:22 qemu-kvm-0.11 regression, crashes on older guests with virtio network Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-28 19:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-28 19:29 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-28 19:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29  3:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Tsai
2009-10-29  3:12   ` Scott Tsai
2009-10-29  9:16 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29  9:16   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 12:00   ` Scott Tsai
2009-10-29 12:00     ` Scott Tsai
2009-10-29 12:16     ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 12:16       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 12:21       ` Scott Tsai
2009-10-29 12:21         ` Scott Tsai
2009-10-29 14:11       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-29 14:11         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-29 14:25         ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 14:25           ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 14:34           ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 14:34             ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 14:46             ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 14:46               ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 14:50               ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 14:50                 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 14:39           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-29 14:39             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-29 14:48             ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 14:48               ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 15:01               ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 15:01                 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 15:01                 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 15:01                   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 15:13                   ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 15:13                     ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 15:15                     ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 15:15                       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-29 15:34               ` [PATCH] whitelist host virtio networking features [was Re: qemu-kvm-0.11 regression, crashes on older ...] Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 15:34                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-30 21:15                 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-30 21:15                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Dustin Kirkland
2009-11-02 14:38                   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-11-02 14:38                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Mark McLoughlin
2009-11-02 15:42                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-02 15:42                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-02 15:52                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-02 18:20                         ` Michael Tokarev
2009-11-02 18:20                           ` Michael Tokarev
2009-11-02 19:39                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-02 19:39                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-02 18:55                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-02 19:25                           ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-11-02 19:25                             ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-11-02 20:50                             ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-11-02 20:50                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05  5:06                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-05  5:06                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-02 16:58                     ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-11-02 16:58                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 14:39     ` [Qemu-devel] qemu-kvm-0.11 regression, crashes on older guests with virtio network Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 14:39       ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 23:22       ` Scott Tsai
2009-10-29 23:22         ` Scott Tsai
2009-10-29 12:23   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-29 12:23     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-29 14:38     ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-29 14:38       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-10-29 15:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-29 15:03         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-29 14:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-29 14:43     ` Dustin Kirkland

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