From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Avi Kivity Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add VirtIO Frame Buffer Support Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:34:02 +0200 Message-ID: <4AEFCEDA.4030308@redhat.com> References: <1257199759-2941-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4AEFCBED.50804@redhat.com> <4AEFCCBA.9050408@redhat.com> <8BA1853F-11C9-44B1-9FDB-1DFDAED40E1B@suse.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <8BA1853F-11C9-44B1-9FDB-1DFDAED40E1B@suse.de> Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: Alexander Graf Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, anthony@codemonkey.ws On 11/03/2009 08:27 AM, Alexander Graf wrote: > >> How does it work today? > > You boot into a TERM=dumb line based emulation on 3270 (worst thing > haunting people's nightmares ever), trying to get out of that mode as > quickly as possible and off into SSH / VNC. Despite the coolness factor, IMO a few minutes during install time do not justify a new hardware model and a new driver. >> Does installation over vnc work? > > Yes, but it requires a working network setup. That's a pretty > requirement on guests IMHO. Why? the guest will typically have networking when it's set up, so it should have network access during install. You can easily use slirp redirection and the built-in dhcp server to set this up with relatively few hassles. -- Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N5CyF-0003j9-3b for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:34:23 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N5CyA-0003hq-54 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:34:22 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34851 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N5Cy9-0003hh-S4 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:34:17 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:18100) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N5Cy9-0002jv-E4 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:34:17 -0500 Message-ID: <4AEFCEDA.4030308@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:34:02 +0200 From: Avi Kivity MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1257199759-2941-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4AEFCBED.50804@redhat.com> <4AEFCCBA.9050408@redhat.com> <8BA1853F-11C9-44B1-9FDB-1DFDAED40E1B@suse.de> In-Reply-To: <8BA1853F-11C9-44B1-9FDB-1DFDAED40E1B@suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] Add VirtIO Frame Buffer Support List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Alexander Graf Cc: linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org On 11/03/2009 08:27 AM, Alexander Graf wrote: > >> How does it work today? > > You boot into a TERM=dumb line based emulation on 3270 (worst thing > haunting people's nightmares ever), trying to get out of that mode as > quickly as possible and off into SSH / VNC. Despite the coolness factor, IMO a few minutes during install time do not justify a new hardware model and a new driver. >> Does installation over vnc work? > > Yes, but it requires a working network setup. That's a pretty > requirement on guests IMHO. Why? the guest will typically have networking when it's set up, so it should have network access during install. You can easily use slirp redirection and the built-in dhcp server to set this up with relatively few hassles. -- Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.