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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: KVM usability
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:22:45 +0200
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To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
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On 03/02/2010 04:29 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> I guess the first step would be to move away from the 'lets support lots of
> crappy virtualization solutions at once, poorly' model, and pick one good
> combo (i'd go for Qemu+KVM) and turn it into a heck of an all-around solution.
> Then all the other combos will catch up as well. (or will wither away)
>    

Should desktop integration be GNOME or KDE based?

IMO this should be addressed via a plugin system so that we can have a 
well integrated single process VM, without choosing one or the other.  
Also, the qemu community doesn't really have serious graphics design 
expertise; best to leave that to people who won't make it a total disaster.

> ( Sidenote: i also looked at the VirtualBox kernel driver. Oh my ... i really
>    shouldnt have! They should migrate to the KVM kernel-side code ASAP ... )
>    

They can't, if they want to continue to support hardware without 
virtualization extensions.

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