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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@novell.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@eu.citrix.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Xen's use of PAT and PV guests
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:44:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BB1C8050200007800037BCE@vpn.id2.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BB1476D.4060209@goop.org>

>>> Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> 30.03.10 02:35 >>>
>It therefore seems to me that if I make Linux:
>
>   1. never set the PAT flag (which it won't anyway),
>   2. check that the value written to IA32_PAT is as expected, but
>      otherwise ignore it, and
>   3. use WT rather than WC
>
>then it all should just work.  I'm not completely confident in the third 
>point though, since I'm not quite sure about the full set of differences 
>between WT and WC, and their respective interactions with the MTRR, and 
>whether that would break anything.  At first glance it seems pretty safe 
>though...

No. For one, while WT is cachable (for reads), WC isn't.

Second, when the MTRRs indicate WC, using WT from PAT is not
recommended (and was earlier documented as undefined behavior).

Third, performance would likely suffer (MTRR-{WC,UC} + PAT-WT -> UC
whereas MTRR-{WC,UC} + PAT-WC -> WC).

Plus all of this would need revisiting once Linux decides to use WT
or WP.

Jan

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-30  7:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-30  0:35 Xen's use of PAT and PV guests Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-30  7:44 ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2010-03-30 17:39   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-30 17:59     ` Keir Fraser
2010-03-30 18:25       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-30 16:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-03-30 18:43   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-31  8:26     ` Jan Beulich
2010-03-30 17:56 ` Ian Campbell
2010-03-30 21:47   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2010-03-31  8:31     ` Ian Campbell
2010-03-31 16:55       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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