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From: Brian Bloniarz <bmb@athenacr.com>
To: Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] block/io bits for 2.6.35-rc
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:44:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C111685.8010400@athenacr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C1111ED.6020008@fusionio.com>

On 06/10/2010 12:25 PM, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 2010-06-10 17:55, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> - A set of patches fixing the WB_SYNC_NONE writeback from Christoph. So
>>>  we should finally have both functional and working WB_SYNC_NONE from
>>>  umount context.
>>
>> I _really_ think this is too late, considering how broken it has been.
>> We already reverted the WB_SYNC_NONE things exactly because it didn't
>> work, didn't we? I'm going to be off-line in two days, and this part
>> of the pull request really makes me nervous, if only simply because of
>> the history of it all (ie it's always been broken, why shouldn't it be
>> broken now?).
>>
>> IOW, that's a lot of scary changes, that have historically not been
>> safe or sufficiently tested, and have caused problems for various
>> filesystems. Convince me why they should suddenly be ok to merge?
> 
> I agree, it's late and it makes me nervous too. I had them cook for
> a day, didn't see any problems. And Christoph would not send it in
> unless it passes at least xfs qa, which is what found the problems
> last time (the ones we reverted).
> 
> It's fixing a regression where umount takes a LONG time if you have
> a lot of dirty inodes, since it basically degenerates to a data
> integrity writeback instead of a simple WB_SYNC_NONE. If it wasn't
> fixing a nasty regression (the distros are all wanting a real fix
> for this, it's a user problem), I would not be submitting this code
> at this point in time.
> 

Reinforcing that last point: from what I could figure out, Fedora 13
is shipping the buggy WB_SYNC_NONE patch currently. Ubuntu 10.04 is
shipping an in-kernel workaround that has serious performance
drawbacks.

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15906 has links to the
downstream bugs.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-10 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-10 13:44 [GIT PULL] block/io bits for 2.6.35-rc Jens Axboe
2010-06-10 15:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-10 16:25   ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-10 16:40     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-10 16:59       ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-10 17:03       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-10 16:44     ` Brian Bloniarz [this message]
2010-06-27 23:10       ` Mark Lord
2010-06-28  7:03         ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-28  9:41           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-28 13:51           ` Mark Lord
2010-06-28 14:05             ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-06-28 14:33               ` Mark Lord
2010-06-28 17:32               ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-28 20:55                 ` Mark Lord
2010-06-10 16:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-06-10 17:00       ` Jens Axboe

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