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From: Milan Broz <mbroz@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Anton Mitterer
	<christoph.anton.mitterer@physik.uni-muenchen.de>
Cc: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] Using plain64/plain IV (initialisation vector) in dm-crypt
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:46:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C4E9CF4.3030308@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1280176686.3266.106.camel@fermat.scientia.net>

This thread is going crazy... :)

1) Facts about using plain IV generator:

- "plain" IV is 32bit only, supported by all kernels
- you should avoid using it for >2TB devices
- it will remain this way because of backward compatibility (howgh:-)

- "plain64" is fully 64bit, available since kernel 2.6.33
- for device < 2TB it produces the same output as "plain"

=> use plain64 for new devices if you want to use tweakable encryption
mode like XTS (or LRW), e.g. cryptsetup -c aes-xts-plain64

p.s.
Never use plain* IV for CBC mode, use ESSIV there.
<joke>If you are using ECB mode, you are lost anyway.</joke>

2) crypsetup should have always safe defaults.
It is aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 with 256bit key currently.


3) For the resize - we cannot catch all situations, someone can
dd LUKS disk to another bigger volume without "resize" command.

Tools will suggest using plain64 but it cannot force it.


> So you guess the the 1TB limit could be actually ...

Forgot about 1TB limit, it is different XTS only problem.
We mixed up two unrelated problems here.

Milan

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-27  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-22 14:57 [dm-crypt] Efficacy of xts over 1TB David Santamaría Rogado
2010-07-25 10:34 ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-25 11:18   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-25 12:29     ` Heinz Diehl
2010-07-25 12:25   ` Milan Broz
2010-07-25 13:14     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-25 13:52       ` Milan Broz
2010-07-25 22:37         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-26  0:14           ` Milan Broz
2010-07-26 20:38             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27  8:46               ` Milan Broz [this message]
2010-07-27 10:47                 ` [dm-crypt] Using plain64/plain IV (initialisation vector) in dm-crypt Arno Wagner
2010-07-27 14:17                   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 16:08                     ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-27 14:15                 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 15:45                   ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-27 15:55                     ` Milan Broz
2010-07-27 18:59                       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 19:37                         ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-27 18:58                     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 19:35                       ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-28  8:42                     ` Milan Broz
2010-08-20 21:11                       ` [dm-crypt] XTS cipher mode limitations Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-21  0:22                         ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-22 12:50                           ` [dm-crypt] XTS cipher mode limitations (FAQ additions) Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-23  0:46                             ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-25  9:36                               ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-22 12:56                           ` [dm-crypt] tool to account the written number of bytes to a block device (was: XTS cipher mode limitations) Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-22 16:01                             ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-22 21:57                               ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-23  7:14                                 ` [dm-crypt] tool to account the written number of bytes to a block device Milan Broz
2010-08-25  9:27                                   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-24 16:19                           ` [dm-crypt] XTS cipher mode limitations Ramius
2010-07-26  8:53           ` [dm-crypt] Efficacy of xts over 1TB Arno Wagner
2010-07-26 20:47             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-26 21:01               ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-26 21:28                 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-26 21:35                   ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-25 22:52         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-26  9:42           ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-26 18:09             ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-27 18:16               ` [dm-crypt] Including the FAQ in the tarball? Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 18:23                 ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-29  8:17                 ` Heinz Diehl
2010-07-25 15:32       ` [dm-crypt] Efficacy of xts over 1TB Arno Wagner
2010-07-25 22:48         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-25 23:42           ` Milan Broz
2010-07-26 18:35             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-25 15:28     ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-25 18:11       ` Milan Broz
2010-07-26  9:04   ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-27 18:21     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 21:02       ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-26  9:17 ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-27 18:42 ` David Santamaría Rogado

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