From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46627 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OsHj0-0000dF-QU for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:05:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OsHiw-0001dd-Pl for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:05:45 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:54017) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OsHiw-0001dU-I4 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:05:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4C83BFD3.1070808@redhat.com> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:05:39 +0300 From: Avi Kivity MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Unmaintained QEMU builds References: <4C62825A.6000903@mail.berlios.de> <4C685F5D.2090707@codemonkey.ws> <4C69A29F.5000606@codemonkey.ws> <4C6AE96C.2040907@codemonkey.ws> <4C837CAF.4080200@redhat.com> <4C83B2ED.5040501@redhat.com> <4C83BDF7.8020201@codemonkey.ws> In-Reply-To: <4C83BDF7.8020201@codemonkey.ws> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_F=E4rber?= , QEMU Developers On 09/05/2010 06:57 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > On 09/05/2010 10:10 AM, Avi Kivity wrote: >>> As a baby step, is there any chance of publishing an automatic >>> nightly Windows (cross-)build as a .zip file on qemu.org? That might >>> give more users a chance of detecting runtime faults during the >>> development cycle. >> >> >> That's doable and useful, yes. > > I doubt it's useful. > > We don't have a massive pool of developers sitting on their hands > waiting for something else to work on. We don't have myriads of users > demanding better Windows support. Search the list, there's almost no > one asking questions about Windows and considering that it's missing a > ton of features and constantly broken, that strongly suggests that no > one is actually using it. Or maybe, real users don't use the git repository, so they aren't aware of the constant breakage. > Windows support in QEMU is an academic exercise that's only of > interest to developers. I'm perfectly fine with dropping it. btw, there are other features in qemu that seem to be academic exercises - *-user for example. What is it useful for? Most open source stuff is multiplatform, and serious commercial work needs something faster than tcg. I can understand cross-cpu system mode being very useful to embedded or kernel developers. x-on-x is only useful with virtualization, otherwise the performance penalty is too great. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function