From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57093 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OsKrq-0005dR-Ru for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:27:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OsKrp-0000lV-FU for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:27:06 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f45.google.com ([209.85.213.45]:49293) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OsKrp-0000lP-DF for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:27:05 -0400 Received: by ywg4 with SMTP id 4so1677776ywg.4 for ; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C83EF07.1060607@codemonkey.ws> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 14:27:03 -0500 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Unmaintained QEMU builds References: <4C62825A.6000903@mail.berlios.de> <4C685F5D.2090707@codemonkey.ws> <4C69A29F.5000606@codemonkey.ws> <4C6AE96C.2040907@codemonkey.ws> <4C837CAF.4080200@redhat.com> <4C83B2ED.5040501@redhat.com> <4C83BDF7.8020201@codemonkey.ws> <4C83BFD3.1070808@redhat.com> <4C83D8A6.1090406@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4C83D8A6.1090406@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBGw6RyYmVy?= , QEMU Developers On 09/05/2010 12:51 PM, Avi Kivity wrote: > On 09/05/2010 08:44 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: >> >>>> I'm perfectly fine with dropping it. btw, there are other features >>>> in qemu >>>> that seem to be academic exercises - *-user for example. What is >>>> it useful >>>> for? Most open source stuff is multiplatform, and serious >>>> commercial work >>>> needs something faster than tcg. >>> Riiight.. Here's a story, my work duties required me to fiddled with >> More examples of industrial use are Nokia and Palm using OpenEmbedded >> building firmware for their phones, which afaik I relies for some >> parts on qemu (just some parts, so the tcg performance doesn't impact >> overall performance that much). There are many more users of OE, but >> these two have products in shops near me. > > Well, both these examples are very far from the typical end user or > even typical developer. > > No doubt anything is useful for someone, given the are 6.7Gp of us on > this planet. > > Are those examples worth the effort? I don't know, but I'm sceptical. -linux-user really doesn't impact much common code so the effort is pretty low. Regards, Anthony Liguori