* [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN
@ 2010-12-22 20:15 Wolfgang Denk
2010-12-23 10:18 ` Andreas Bießmann
2011-01-25 8:22 ` Alexander Holler
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2010-12-22 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hello all,
U-Boot v2010.12 has been released and is available from the git
repository and the FTP server.
The "next" branch has been pulled into mainline ("master" branch) and
has been removed afterward.
********************
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** **
** BIG FAT NOTE **
** **
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The release contains, among many other things, 3 major groups of
changes:
1) New implementation for internal handling of environment variables.
In addition to the traditional commands "setenv", "printenv" and
"saveenv" there is now a new "env" command with a number opf
subcommands that offer many new features. Please see the commit
message of commit ea882baf for details:
http://git.denx.de/?p=3Du-boot.git;a=3Dcommit;h=3Dea882baf
2) ARM cache support.
This greatly accelerates U-Boot on many ARM systems, especially
functions like uncompressing images or loading images form external
storage are now much faster, sometimes by a factor > 10. For
details please see these commits:
7e4a9e6 ARM (ARM11): add data cache support, test on Qong board
95c6f6d ARM V7 (OMAP): add data cache support, test on Beagle board
c3330e9 ARM (ARM926ejs): add data cache support, tested on magnesium and tx25 board
http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=commit;h=7e4a9e6
http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=commit;h=95c6f6d
http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=commit;h=c3330e9
3) ARM relocation support (ELF relocation)
This allows to efficiently use the same U-Boot binary image on
systems with different RAM sizes, and brings the implementation
much more in line with the code used for example on Power
Architecture systems (eventually allowing to merge into common
code). This seems especially interesting now that ARM is getting
Device Tree support as well.
Please note that not all ARM boards have been adapted to this new
code yet, which requires testing on the actual hardware, so this
is a task for the respective board maintainers or other users.
*****************************************************************
* Currently, >100 ARM boards are *broken* and *do not compile*. *
*****************************************************************
Board maintainers or othe rinterested parties are requested to
adapt their boards to the new code in the timeframe of the
upcoming release v2010.03; all boards that have not been converted
by then, i. e. that are still broken then, are considered
unmaintained and without interest to the community and will be
removed.
--- end of big fat note ---
The Merge Window for the next release (v2011.03) is open until
Sat Jan 15, 2011, 23:59:59 CET = 24 days remaining.
The next release v2011.03 is scheduled for March 13, 2011.
See http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot/ReleaseCycle for details,
including guestimates for the next releases after that.
A little statistics [1] - changes since release v2020.09:
Processed 859 csets from 111 developers
29 employers found
A total of 75649 lines added, 90937 removed (delta -15288)
Developers with the most changesets
Wolfgang Denk 90 (10.5%)
Mike Frysinger 58 (6.8%)
Stefan Roese 41 (4.8%)
Marek Vasut 41 (4.8%)
Heiko Schocher 39 (4.5%)
Peter Tyser 36 (4.2%)
Stefano Babic 32 (3.7%)
Andreas Bie?mann 22 (2.6%)
Kumar Gala 21 (2.4%)
Steve Sakoman 21 (2.4%)
...
Developers with the most changed lines
Wolfgang Denk 32621 (23.4%)
Mike Frysinger 24015 (17.2%)
Marek Vasut 11055 (7.9%)
Stefano Babic 10994 (7.9%)
Stefan Roese 4722 (3.4%)
Heiko Schocher 4668 (3.3%)
Remy Bohmer 4425 (3.2%)
Peter Tyser 4069 (2.9%)
Reinhard Meyer 2539 (1.8%)
Dirk Eibach 1544 (1.1%)
...
Developers with the most lines removed
Wolfgang Denk 23946 (26.3%)
Mike Frysinger 13431 (14.8%)
Marek Vasut 6370 (7.0%)
Peter Tyser 3131 (3.4%)
Stefan Roese 962 (1.1%)
Prafulla Wadaskar 645 (0.7%)
Timur Tabi 635 (0.7%)
Andreas Bie?mann 471 (0.5%)
Mikhail Kshevetskiy 411 (0.5%)
Kumar Gala 248 (0.3%)
...
Developers with the most signoffs (total 206)
Kumar Gala 51 (24.8%)
Sandeep Paulraj 45 (21.8%)
Ben Warren 14 (6.8%)
Wolfgang Denk 13 (6.3%)
Mike Frysinger 12 (5.8%)
Peter Tyser 11 (5.3%)
Kim Phillips 11 (5.3%)
Stefan Roese 10 (4.9%)
Anatolij Gustschin 6 (2.9%)
Kyungmin Park 4 (1.9%)
...
Developers with the most reviews (total 4)
Ben Gardiner 3 (75.0%)
Sudhakar Rajashekhara 1 (25.0%)
Developers with the most test credits (total 55)
Steve Sakoman 10 (18.2%)
Heiko Schocher 10 (18.2%)
Ben Gardiner 9 (16.4%)
Stefano Babic 8 (14.5%)
Wolfgang Denk 3 (5.5%)
Reinhard Meyer 3 (5.5%)
Sandeep Paulraj 2 (3.6%)
Thomas Chou 2 (3.6%)
Sudhakar Rajashekhara 1 (1.8%)
Peter Tyser 1 (1.8%)
...
Developers who gave the most tested-by credits (total 55)
Wolfgang Denk 10 (18.2%)
Scott Wood 5 (9.1%)
Dirk Behme 5 (9.1%)
Steve Sakoman 4 (7.3%)
Jerry Huang 4 (7.3%)
Sukumar Ghorai 4 (7.3%)
Nick Thompson 3 (5.5%)
Enric Balletbo i Serra 3 (5.5%)
John Rigby 2 (3.6%)
Kumar Gala 2 (3.6%)
...
Developers with the most report credits (total 4)
Vivi Li 2 (50.0%)
Dan Lykowski 1 (25.0%)
Peter Maydell 1 (25.0%)
Developers who gave the most report credits (total 4)
Mike Frysinger 2 (50.0%)
Wolfgang Denk 1 (25.0%)
Steve Sakoman 1 (25.0%)
Top changeset contributors by employer
DENX Software Engineering 210 (24.4%)
(Unknown) 207 (24.1%)
Freescale 83 (9.7%)
Analog Devices 59 (6.9%)
Extreme Engineering Solutions 46 (5.4%)
Texas Instruments 26 (3.0%)
Graeme Russ 20 (2.3%)
Sakoman Inc. 20 (2.3%)
Nobuhiro Iwamatsu 17 (2.0%)
EmCraft Systems 14 (1.6%)
...
Top lines changed by employer
DENX Software Engineering 56393 (40.4%)
Analog Devices 30593 (21.9%)
(Unknown) 29056 (20.8%)
Extreme Engineering Solutions 5551 (4.0%)
Freescale 4445 (3.2%)
Oce Technologies 4425 (3.2%)
Guntermann & Drunck 1544 (1.1%)
EmCraft Systems 1467 (1.1%)
Marvell 1443 (1.0%)
Liebherr 1090 (0.8%)
...
Employers with the most signoffs (total 206)
Freescale 65 (31.6%)
Texas Instruments 46 (22.3%)
DENX Software Engineering 32 (15.5%)
(Unknown) 32 (15.5%)
Analog Devices 13 (6.3%)
Extreme Engineering Solutions 11 (5.3%)
Samsung 6 (2.9%)
Gaisler Research 1 (0.5%)
[1] See http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot/UbootStat_2010_12 for full
statistics, and http://www.denx.de/wiki/UBoot/ReleaseCycle
for links to statistics for earlier releases.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
--
DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
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* [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN
2010-12-22 20:15 [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN Wolfgang Denk
@ 2010-12-23 10:18 ` Andreas Bießmann
2011-01-25 8:22 ` Alexander Holler
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Bießmann @ 2010-12-23 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi all,
I have an addition to the remove announcement of unmaintained arm boards.
Am 22.12.2010 um 21:15 schrieb Wolfgang Denk:
[snip release features]
> *****************************************************************
> * Currently, >100 ARM boards are *broken* and *do not compile*. *
> *****************************************************************
>
> Board maintainers or othe rinterested parties are requested to
> adapt their boards to the new code in the timeframe of the
> upcoming release v2010.03; all boards that have not been converted
I guess you mean v2011.03 here.
> by then, i. e. that are still broken then, are considered
> unmaintained and without interest to the community and will be
> removed.
These boards use 'old style' at91rm9200 SoC implementation and will also be removed if not converted to 'new style' at91 SoC until v2011.03.
---8<---
cmc_pu2 arm arm920t - - at91rm9200
csb637 arm arm920t - - at91rm9200
kb9202 arm arm920t - - at91rm9200
m501sk arm arm920t - - at91rm9200
mp2usb arm arm920t - - at91rm9200
at91rm9200dk arm arm920t - atmel at91rm9200
--->8---
I guess they will be removed by 'broken cause of relocation' in any case. But to mention them here clearly and announce the completion of conversion from at91rm9200 SoC to at91 SoC in arch/arm/cpu/arm920t.
regards
Andreas Bie?mann
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* [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN
2010-12-22 20:15 [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN Wolfgang Denk
2010-12-23 10:18 ` Andreas Bießmann
@ 2011-01-25 8:22 ` Alexander Holler
2011-01-25 20:17 ` Wolfgang Denk
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Holler @ 2011-01-25 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hello,
Am 22.12.2010 21:15, schrieb Wolfgang Denk:
> *****************************************************************
> * Currently,>100 ARM boards are *broken* and *do not compile*. *
> *****************************************************************
>
> Board maintainers or othe rinterested parties are requested to
> adapt their boards to the new code in the timeframe of the
> upcoming release v2010.03; all boards that have not been converted
> by then, i. e. that are still broken then, are considered
> unmaintained and without interest to the community and will be
> removed.
Maybe just a
#error Code for this board doesn't compile since at least #date#
or a similiar message in foo_config.h would be a way to inform people
early that the code needs some work.
This way the source for the board could be visible for some more time in
the repository.
Regards,
Alexander
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* [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN
2011-01-25 8:22 ` Alexander Holler
@ 2011-01-25 20:17 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-01-26 0:15 ` Alexander Holler
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2011-01-25 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Dear Alexander Holler,
In message <4D3E8855.4070003@ahsoftware.de> you wrote:
>
> > *****************************************************************
> > * Currently,>100 ARM boards are *broken* and *do not compile*. *
> > *****************************************************************
> >
> > Board maintainers or othe rinterested parties are requested to
> > adapt their boards to the new code in the timeframe of the
> > upcoming release v2010.03; all boards that have not been converted
> > by then, i. e. that are still broken then, are considered
> > unmaintained and without interest to the community and will be
> > removed.
>
> Maybe just a
>
> #error Code for this board doesn't compile since at least #date#
>
> or a similiar message in foo_config.h would be a way to inform people
> early that the code needs some work.
>
> This way the source for the board could be visible for some more time in
> the repository.
Patches welcome...
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
--
DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
The world is coming to an end -- save your buffers!
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* [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN
2011-01-25 20:17 ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2011-01-26 0:15 ` Alexander Holler
2011-01-26 7:38 ` Wolfgang Denk
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Holler @ 2011-01-26 0:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Am 25.01.2011 21:17, schrieb Wolfgang Denk:
> Dear Alexander Holler,
>
> In message<4D3E8855.4070003@ahsoftware.de> you wrote:
>>
>>> *****************************************************************
>>> * Currently,>100 ARM boards are *broken* and *do not compile*. *
>>> *****************************************************************
>>>
>>> Board maintainers or othe rinterested parties are requested to
>>> adapt their boards to the new code in the timeframe of the
>>> upcoming release v2010.03; all boards that have not been converted
>>> by then, i. e. that are still broken then, are considered
>>> unmaintained and without interest to the community and will be
>>> removed.
>>
>> Maybe just a
>>
>> #error Code for this board doesn't compile since at least #date#
>>
>> or a similiar message in foo_config.h would be a way to inform people
>> early that the code needs some work.
>>
>> This way the source for the board could be visible for some more time in
>> the repository.
>
> Patches welcome...
I don't have a script or similiar which tests which boards does compile,
but adding a
if fail then echo "#error $board doesn't compile since $(date)"
>>include/configs/board.h
to such a script should do the trick.
I think this will cost less time than removing these boards (with the
next release) and will give people more time to implement the necessary
changes. When those sources get removed, it will be more work to get
them in back, therefore I would prefer to leave such boards in the repo
for some more time.
A sideeffect of such an #error would be, that there would be an
indication about how long a board doesn't compile.
Regards,
Alexander
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* [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN
2011-01-26 0:15 ` Alexander Holler
@ 2011-01-26 7:38 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-01-26 8:17 ` Alexander Holler
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2011-01-26 7:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Dear Alexander Holler,
In message <4D3F679F.6060406@ahsoftware.de> you wrote:
>
> > Patches welcome...
>
> I don't have a script or similiar which tests which boards does compile,
Yes, you do. It's called MAKEALL and comes for free with the U-Boot
code. Actually it is required to be run before submitting any patch.
Didn't you read the documentation? ;-)
> if fail then echo "#error $board doesn't compile since $(date)"
> >>include/configs/board.h
>
> to such a script should do the trick.
There are many reasons why boards do not build, or cause warnings, so
you at least need to inspect and manually filter such a list.
> I think this will cost less time than removing these boards (with the
> next release) and will give people more time to implement the necessary
> changes. When those sources get removed, it will be more work to get
> them in back, therefore I would prefer to leave such boards in the repo
> for some more time.
Removing is simple, and the only proven way to clean up old mess.
I see no reason to keep dead, unmaintained code in U-Boot for too
long.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
--
DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
If I had to live my life again, I'd make the same mistakes, only
sooner. -- Tallulah Bankhead
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* [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN
2011-01-26 7:38 ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2011-01-26 8:17 ` Alexander Holler
2011-01-26 8:36 ` Stefano Babic
2011-01-26 9:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Holler @ 2011-01-26 8:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hello,
Am 26.01.2011 08:38, schrieb Wolfgang Denk:
>> I think this will cost less time than removing these boards (with the
>> next release) and will give people more time to implement the necessary
>> changes. When those sources get removed, it will be more work to get
>> them in back, therefore I would prefer to leave such boards in the repo
>> for some more time.
>
> Removing is simple, and the only proven way to clean up old mess.
> I see no reason to keep dead, unmaintained code in U-Boot for too
> long.
The question is the timeframe. I think when many of these boards will
get removed with the next release, that's a bit short. Finding the stuff
which doesn't work through the relocation is time consuming and people
have to find the time to do this for older boards for which they
currently don't actively develop. E.g for some of the boards under
active development it has needed the last 3 month.
Regards,
Alexander
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* [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN
2011-01-26 8:17 ` Alexander Holler
@ 2011-01-26 8:36 ` Stefano Babic
2011-01-26 9:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-01-26 9:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Stefano Babic @ 2011-01-26 8:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
On 01/26/2011 09:17 AM, Alexander Holler wrote:
> The question is the timeframe. I think when many of these boards will
> get removed with the next release, that's a bit short. Finding the stuff
> which doesn't work through the relocation is time consuming and people
> have to find the time to do this for older boards for which they
> currently don't actively develop. E.g for some of the boards under
> active development it has needed the last 3 month.
I come late in the discussion, but personally I would prefer to remove
these boards as to try to let them in mainline in any case. Removing
them is not one-way at all.
If someone has interest can always resubmit a patchset to add the board
again to mainline. This could be also an occasion to clean up ancient
code ;-).
Best regards,
Stefano Babic
--
=====================================================================
DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: +49-8142-66989-0 Fax: +49-8142-66989-80 Email: office at denx.de
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* [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN
2011-01-26 8:36 ` Stefano Babic
@ 2011-01-26 9:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-01-28 10:34 ` Alexander Holler
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2011-01-26 9:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Dear Stefano Babic,
In message <4D3FDD21.9000100@denx.de> you wrote:
>
> If someone has interest can always resubmit a patchset to add the board
> again to mainline. This could be also an occasion to clean up ancient
> code ;-).
Actually the first step would be as simple as a "git revert" for the
respective commit.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
--
DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
When it is incorrect, it is, at least *authoritatively* incorrect.
- Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy
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* [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN
2011-01-26 9:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2011-01-28 10:34 ` Alexander Holler
2011-01-28 13:17 ` Stefano Babic
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Holler @ 2011-01-28 10:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hello,
Am 26.01.2011 10:39, schrieb Wolfgang Denk:
> Dear Stefano Babic,
>
> In message<4D3FDD21.9000100@denx.de> you wrote:
>>
>> If someone has interest can always resubmit a patchset to add the board
>> again to mainline. This could be also an occasion to clean up ancient
>> code ;-).
>
> Actually the first step would be as simple as a "git revert" for the
> respective commit.
Just to finally explain my reasoning to start this thread. My intention
was to leave some code for still widely used boards visible in the sources.
E.g. at the time I've started to modify u-board for a custom board, I've
looked at the sources to find a similiar board and started to change the
code for that. I would never have had a look at the repository to check
if there once was a time where code for a similiar board was available.
And the thoughts in a crufty place of my brain were escpecially about
all the Atmel-boards. But it already seems some people found the time to
start checking/fixing the code for them.
Besides that I don't have had any arguments against removing code for
unmaintained boards and I don't know how many and which long dead boards
are resting in peace in the source (and since when). But the number of
100 is really impressive, so I think I'm wrong and I shouldn't have
started this discussion.
Regards,
Alexander
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2011-01-28 10:34 ` Alexander Holler
@ 2011-01-28 13:17 ` Stefano Babic
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Stefano Babic @ 2011-01-28 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
On 01/28/2011 11:34 AM, Alexander Holler wrote:
> Hello,
Hello,
> Just to finally explain my reasoning to start this thread. My intention
> was to leave some code for still widely used boards visible in the sources.
>
> E.g. at the time I've started to modify u-board for a custom board, I've
> looked at the sources to find a similiar board and started to change the
> code for that. I would never have had a look at the repository to check
> if there once was a time where code for a similiar board was available.
I think it is the common way. IMHO you get a real help if that code
works and someone tested it. If there are a similar board in mainline,
but you cannot know if it works and you have to doubt on any step, it is
probaly more painful as to start from scratch.
> Besides that I don't have had any arguments against removing code for
> unmaintained boards and I don't know how many and which long dead boards
> are resting in peace in the source (and since when). But the number of
> 100 is really impressive, so I think I'm wrong and I shouldn't have
> started this discussion.
No, thanks to start this discussion and to share your opinion. You
raised several good points. And it could be that this discussion has
grown interest to support these broken boards, and maybe it will be not
necessary to remove them ;-).
Best regards,
Stefano
--
=====================================================================
DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: +49-8142-66989-0 Fax: +49-8142-66989-80 Email: office at denx.de
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* [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN
2011-01-26 8:17 ` Alexander Holler
2011-01-26 8:36 ` Stefano Babic
@ 2011-01-26 9:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-01-26 9:27 ` Alexander Holler
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2011-01-26 9:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Dear Alexander Holler,
In message <4D3FD89D.7000509@ahsoftware.de> you wrote:
>
> > Removing is simple, and the only proven way to clean up old mess.
> > I see no reason to keep dead, unmaintained code in U-Boot for too
> > long.
>
> The question is the timeframe. I think when many of these boards will
> get removed with the next release, that's a bit short. Finding the stuff
> which doesn't work through the relocation is time consuming and people
> have to find the time to do this for older boards for which they
> currently don't actively develop. E.g for some of the boards under
> active development it has needed the last 3 month.
I'm not sure what exactly the goal is that you are tying to reach by
this discussion.
If anybody wants to prevent the removal of a specific board, but has
no time or ressources to work on it right now, then he can of course
just speak up and ask that we not remove the code now. This is
absolutely no problem. But we need to know that somebody feels
responsible, and what the expected time frame for his fixes will be.
On the otherhand, if there is zero interest visible for some board,
then what would be the rationale to keep it any longer?
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
--
DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
Steal five dollars and you were a petty thief. Steal thousands of
dollars and you are either a government or a hero.
- Terry Pratchett, _Going_Postal_
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* [U-Boot] U-Boot v2010.12 released - Merge Window OPEN
2011-01-26 9:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2011-01-26 9:27 ` Alexander Holler
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Holler @ 2011-01-26 9:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Am 26.01.2011 10:19, schrieb Wolfgang Denk:
> Dear Alexander Holler,
>
> In message<4D3FD89D.7000509@ahsoftware.de> you wrote:
>>
>>> Removing is simple, and the only proven way to clean up old mess.
>>> I see no reason to keep dead, unmaintained code in U-Boot for too
>>> long.
>>
>> The question is the timeframe. I think when many of these boards will
>> get removed with the next release, that's a bit short. Finding the stuff
>> which doesn't work through the relocation is time consuming and people
>> have to find the time to do this for older boards for which they
>> currently don't actively develop. E.g for some of the boards under
>> active development it has needed the last 3 month.
>
> I'm not sure what exactly the goal is that you are tying to reach by
> this discussion.
No goal, sorry to bother anyone.
Regards,
Alexander
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