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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC] qapi: events in QMP
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 08:39:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D593E8F.7050306@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110214104517.32b77291@doriath>

On 02/14/2011 06:45 AM, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> So the question is: how does the schema based design support extending
> commands or events? Does it require adding new commands/events?
>    

Well, let me ask you, how do we do that today?

Let's say that I want to add a new parameter to the `change' function so 
that I can include a salt parameter as part of the password.

The way we'd do this today is by checking for the 'salt' parameter in 
qdict, and if it's not present, use a random salt or something like that.

However, if I'm a QMP client, how can I tell whether you're going to 
ignore my salt parameter or actually use it?  Nothing in QMP tells me 
this today.  If I set the salt parameter in the `change' command, I'll 
just get a success message.

Even if we expose a schema, but leave things as-is, having to parse the 
schema as part of a function call is pretty horrible, particularly if 
distros do silly things like backport some optional parameters and not 
others.  If those optional parameters are deeply nested in a structure, 
it's even worse.

OTOH, if we introduce a new command to set the password with a salt, it 
becomes very easy for the client to support.  The do something as simple as:

if qmp.has_command("vnc-set-password-with-salt"):
     qmp.vnc_set_password_with_salt('foobar', 'X*')
else:
     window.set_weak_security_icon(True)
     qmp.vnc_set_password('foobar')

Now you could answer, hey, we can add capabilities then those 
capabilities can quickly get out of hand.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> While the current code is in really in bad shape currently, I'm not sure that
> having this disadvantage will pay off the new design.
>
>    

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-14 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-13 18:08 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] qapi: events in QMP Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 18:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14  9:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2011-02-14 12:03   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 12:32     ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-14 12:45       ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-02-14 14:39         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-02-14 18:34           ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-02-14 19:34             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 19:58               ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-02-14 20:01                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-02-14 20:15                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-15 13:35                   ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-02-15 14:54                 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-15  9:20               ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-15 13:38                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-02-16  0:59                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-16  8:50                     ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-16 13:43                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-16 14:15                         ` Kevin Wolf
2011-02-16 14:32                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-16 14:32                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 21:14       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 13:28 ` Luiz Capitulino
2011-02-14 13:33   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-02-14 14:24     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 14:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-15 14:07 ` What's QAPI? (was: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] qapi: events in QMP) Markus Armbruster
2011-02-15 14:13   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: What's QAPI? Anthony Liguori
2011-02-15 16:15   ` Anthony Liguori

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