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From: Albert Pool <albertpool@solcon.nl>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: (Short?) merge window reminder
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:35:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDBD058.3080801@solcon.nl> (raw)

A new major version number will reach high expectations. I think it's 
better to wait till the power issues of 2.6.38/39 are fixed and proved 
to be absent, before naming it Linux 3.0.
Anyway, wouldn't it be a great date to release Linux 3 on August 21, 
2011? I know it's hard to achieve this exact date with a stable 3.0. If 
you don't think a fixed date for a stable version is a good idea, you 
could release the first RC of 3.0 on that date.

About the scripts: if they don't like the version number to be 1 digit 
shorter, why not append an extra .0 to uname? This digit can be used for 
bugfix releases, like 2.6.38.7. In the current system, an extra digit is 
added for those releases. But if that extra digit will always be there, 
and is 0 by default, scripts won't care about the lack of a 3rd digit. 
Then, the 3.0 will be 3.0.0, with new releases (current 3rd digit) being 
3.1.0, 3.2.0, ..., and bugfix releases (current 4th digit) being 3.0.1, 
3.0.2, .... It might be a bit confusing after the switch, but if we 
change to a 2-digit number, it's confusing too.
Scripts recognizing bugfixes as new releases is a smaller disaster than 
scripts crashing or returning errors due to the lack of a 3rd digit.

I agree with Jon Smirl that it could be probably better to release 2.8 
first, but there's also a good side on switching to 3.0. We are skipping 
2.7, that means our version numbering system already changes a bit. Why 
not change it completely then?

Sorry if I've missed out some discussion about this, I am not 
subscribed. I have only read some messages in the LKML archive.

Albert Pool

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 15:48:39 +0100, Ralf Baechle wrote:

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 07:17:21PM -0400, Ted Ts'o wrote:

>  >  So I'm toying with 3.0 (and in that case, it really would be "3.0",
>  >  not "3.0.0" - the stable team would get the third digit rather than
>  >  the fourth one.
>
>  If we change from 2.6.X to 3.X, then if we don't change anything else,
>  then successive stable release will cause the LINUX_VERSION_CODE to be
>  incremented.  This isn't necessary bad, but it would be a different
>  from what we have now.

It will require another bunch of changes to scripts that try to make sense
out of kernel Linux version numbers.  It's a minor issue and we might be
better off doing something else than version number magic.  Not last a
new major version number raises expectations - whatever those might be.

   Ralf



             reply	other threads:[~2011-05-24 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-24 15:35 Albert Pool [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-05-24 13:40 (Short?) merge window reminder werner
2011-05-24 14:09 ` Jerome Glisse
2011-05-23 19:13 Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 19:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 19:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 19:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 19:20   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-23 20:33   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 20:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 20:52     ` Alexey Zaytsev
2011-05-23 20:52       ` Alexey Zaytsev
2011-05-25 14:12       ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-05-25 14:12         ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-05-25 22:21         ` Tony Luck
2011-05-25 22:21           ` Tony Luck
2011-05-26 16:38           ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-05-26 16:38             ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-05-27  5:44             ` Keith Curtis
2011-05-23 21:41     ` Yuhong Bao
2011-05-23 21:59     ` Oliver Pinter
2011-05-23 21:59       ` Oliver Pinter
2011-05-23 22:21     ` Greg KH
2011-05-23 22:21       ` Greg KH
2011-05-23 23:40       ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-05-23 23:40         ` Matthew Wilcox
2011-05-23 23:10     ` jonsmirl
2011-05-23 23:10       ` jonsmirl
2011-05-23 23:17     ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-23 23:17       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-23 23:21       ` Randy Dunlap
2011-05-23 23:21         ` Randy Dunlap
2011-05-23 23:23       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-23 23:23       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-23 23:23         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-23 23:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 23:33           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-23 23:33           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-24  2:01           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24  2:01             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24  7:55           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-24  7:55             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-24 12:15           ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-05-24 12:30             ` Jacek Luczak
2011-05-24 13:02               ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-05-24 13:18                 ` Jacek Luczak
2011-05-24 14:43                   ` Alan Cox
2011-05-24 15:07                     ` jonsmirl
2011-05-24 17:36                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-24 17:36                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-24 17:41                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-24 18:48                           ` eschvoca
2011-05-24 21:05                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-05-25  9:12                               ` Emil Langrock
2011-05-26 16:13                       ` Sérgio Basto
2011-05-26 16:13                         ` Sérgio Basto
2011-05-27  9:20                         ` Lukasz
2011-05-24 15:46                     ` Ralf Baechle
2011-05-24 17:29                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-05-25  1:13               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-25 12:26                 ` Kasper Dupont
2011-05-25 20:48                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-23 23:23       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-23 23:23       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-05-24 14:41       ` Alan Cox
2011-05-24 14:41         ` Alan Cox
2011-05-24 14:48       ` Ralf Baechle
2011-05-24 14:48       ` Ralf Baechle
2011-05-24 14:48       ` Ralf Baechle
2011-05-24 14:48         ` Ralf Baechle
2011-05-24 14:48       ` Ralf Baechle
2011-05-23 23:53     ` Phil Turmel
2011-05-23 23:53       ` Phil Turmel
2011-05-24  2:11     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24  2:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 18:06     ` Lisa Milne
2011-05-24 18:06       ` Lisa Milne
2011-05-24 20:59       ` Zimny Lech
2011-05-24 20:59         ` Zimny Lech
2011-05-25 15:03         ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2011-05-25 15:03           ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2011-05-24 18:34     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2011-05-24 18:34       ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2011-05-24 18:55       ` david
2011-05-24 18:55         ` david
2011-05-24 21:25     ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-05-24 21:25       ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-05-25 12:52       ` Jiri Kosina
2011-05-25 12:52         ` Jiri Kosina
2011-05-24 23:00     ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2011-05-24 23:00       ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2011-05-23 19:22 ` Greg KH
2011-05-23 19:22   ` Greg KH
2011-05-23 20:04   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-23 20:04     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-23 20:04     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-23 19:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-23 19:25   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-23 20:21   ` Randy Dunlap
2011-05-23 20:21     ` Randy Dunlap
2011-05-23 21:02     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-23 21:02       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-24 19:06 ` Emil Langrock
2011-05-25  4:47 ` porpen

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