From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-ew0-f47.google.com ([209.85.215.47]) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QwEyC-00073J-VP for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:02:21 +0200 Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so520424ewy.6 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.130.129 with SMTP id t1mr2345694bks.231.1314197854304; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fensuse.internal.dresearch-fe.de (pd95cb174.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.177.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h26sm312111bkt.52.2011.08.24.07.57.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E55115B.6070102@dresearch-fe.de> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:57:31 +0200 From: Steffen Sledz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org References: <4E54DA89.2080105@dresearch-fe.de> <4E54EF12.2010100@dresearch-fe.de> <4E54F03E.3040806@juszkiewicz.com.pl> <4E550BDE.6010401@dresearch-fe.de> <20110824144529.GD5522@jama.jama.net> In-Reply-To: <20110824144529.GD5522@jama.jama.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Cc: Martin Jansa Subject: Re: upstart vs. task-proper-tools X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:02:21 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 24.08.2011 16:45, Martin Jansa wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 04:34:06PM +0200, Steffen Sledz wrote: >> On 24.08.2011 14:36, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: >>> W dniu 24.08.2011 14:31, Steffen Sledz pisze: >>>> BTW: What is the exact meaning/purpose/use of task-proper-tools? >>> >>> Replace busybox components by full versions. Was made years ago and then updated by several people. While working for BugLabs company I used it to create rootfs without busybox. >>> >>>> The list contains a lot of tools with existing alternatives (e.g. syslog-ng vs. rsyslog or pump vs. dhcpcd). >>> >>> Then propose change which will allow to install one of them only at time? >> >> Sorry, but my knowledge is not sufficient to do this. I've no idea how to reference u-a related tools here. > > Why you don't remove task-proper-tools from your images RDEPENDS and add only tools you need which aren't provided by upstart? task-proper-tools is not directly in our image RDEPENDS but inherited via task-sdk-native (may be via others too). > or use something like DISTRO_SYSLOG ?= "syslog-ng" in task-proper-tools > > and set DISTRO_SYSLOG = upstart for your distro if distro level granularity is fine for you (all supported images are using upstart). We do not have an own distro (we use angstrom). It's only a custom image. And the initial problem is sysvinit vs. upstart which are not u-a but need to be installed exclusively. If i'm right this is done by setting IMAGE_INIT_MANAGER. Can this variable used inside the task-proper-tools RDEPENDS? -- DResearch Fahrzeugelektronik GmbH Otto-Schmirgal-Str. 3, 10319 Berlin, Germany Tel: +49 30 515932-237 mailto:sledz@dresearch-fe.de Fax: +49 30 515932-299 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Michael Weber, Werner Mögle; Amtsgericht Berlin Charlottenburg; HRB 130120 B; Ust.-IDNr. DE273952058