From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-bw0-f47.google.com ([209.85.214.47]) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QwGyz-0002HE-2A for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 19:11:17 +0200 Received: by bkbzu17 with SMTP id zu17so1150990bkb.6 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.136.69 with SMTP id q5mr2560878bkt.250.1314205590566; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [217.197.84.226] (recycler.in-berlin.de [217.197.84.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z6sm355977bks.24.2011.08.24.10.06.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E552F87.8010204@dresearch-fe.de> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 19:06:15 +0200 From: Steffen Sledz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Jansa References: <4E54DA89.2080105@dresearch-fe.de> <4E54EF12.2010100@dresearch-fe.de> <4E54F03E.3040806@juszkiewicz.com.pl> <4E550BDE.6010401@dresearch-fe.de> <20110824144529.GD5522@jama.jama.net> <4E55115B.6070102@dresearch-fe.de> <20110824151422.GE5522@jama.jama.net> In-Reply-To: <20110824151422.GE5522@jama.jama.net> Cc: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org Subject: Re: upstart vs. task-proper-tools X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:11:17 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Am 24.08.2011 17:14, schrieb Martin Jansa: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 04:57:31PM +0200, Steffen Sledz wrote: >> On 24.08.2011 16:45, Martin Jansa wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 04:34:06PM +0200, Steffen Sledz wrote: >>>> On 24.08.2011 14:36, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: >>>>> W dniu 24.08.2011 14:31, Steffen Sledz pisze: >>>>>> BTW: What is the exact meaning/purpose/use of task-proper-tools? >>>>> >>>>> Replace busybox components by full versions. Was made years ago and then updated by several people. While working for BugLabs company I used it to create rootfs without busybox. >>>>> >>>>>> The list contains a lot of tools with existing alternatives (e.g. syslog-ng vs. rsyslog or pump vs. dhcpcd). >>>>> >>>>> Then propose change which will allow to install one of them only at time? >>>> >>>> Sorry, but my knowledge is not sufficient to do this. I've no idea how to reference u-a related tools here. >>> >>> Why you don't remove task-proper-tools from your images RDEPENDS and add only tools you need which aren't provided by upstart? >> >> task-proper-tools is not directly in our image RDEPENDS but inherited via task-sdk-native (may be via others too). > > then maybe it's time to propose removing it from task-sdk-native or add > switch controlling if it should be included or not. +1 >>> or use something like DISTRO_SYSLOG ?= "syslog-ng" in task-proper-tools >>> >>> and set DISTRO_SYSLOG = upstart for your distro if distro level granularity is fine for you (all supported images are using upstart). >> >> We do not have an own distro (we use angstrom). It's only a custom image. >> >> And the initial problem is sysvinit vs. upstart which are not u-a but need to be installed exclusively. If i'm right this is done by setting IMAGE_INIT_MANAGER. Can this variable used inside the task-proper-tools RDEPENDS? > > No because you have one global task-proper-tools for different images > (with possible different IMAGE_INIT_MANAGER values). -- DResearch Fahrzeugelektronik GmbH Otto-Schmirgal-Str. 3, 10319 Berlin, Germany Tel: +49 30 515932-237 mailto:sledz@dresearch-fe.de Fax: +49 30 515932-299 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Michael Weber, Werner Mögle; Amtsgericht Berlin Charlottenburg; HRB 130120 B; Ust.-IDNr. DE273952058